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Microsoft Accepts Most EU Demands, But Not Over Source

JoeGi writes "Microsoft sent a letter to EU regulators Monday accepting 20 out of the Commission's 26 demands. According to BetaNews, 'The remaining stumbling block to full compliance is source code licensing' as Microsoft is refusing access to open source projects. Microsoft officials told BetaNews they are trying 'to find a way that companies can implement these technologies in code that would get distributed with open source products, but the source code wouldn't be published itself.'"

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  1. Accepting demands by T(V)oney · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wasn't aware Microsoft had a choice regarding which demands they would accept and would not accept.

  2. Why force them to license the source? by LiENUS · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Licensing the source-code does not do much, a much better solution would be to require them to open the patents and specifications up for their drm and media formats. This gives their competitors a firm standing to enter the market with them. It would also allow opensource implementations of their media formats on linux with full drm support.

  3. Code? by dmaxwell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    MS' code being out there would cause nothing but SCO style problems anyway. What is needed is to force (full) disclosure of (actual) protocols and formats. The last thing we need is accusations of improperly using MS' own implementation.

    Other people's code isn't necessarily good documentation and usually won't drop into another project's tree anyway. Why is there such emphasis on code? Should we be talking about specifications?

  4. What about by deutschemonte · · Score: 5, Interesting

    open formats/standards? They should force Microsoft to use the .odf format that KOffice and OpenOffice now use as default?

    If they would just take away Microsoft's virtual monopoly on the office document format it would make it easier for users to switch to open alternatives.

    I have always said that switching people to open software on Windows is the first step to switching people to open software period.

    To me the lack of forced open document formats and standards compliance is the only thing keeping open software from grabbing large market share from Microsoft.

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  5. Re:The article says "accepts"... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The other option is for Microsoft to just stop selling and supporting software in the EU. I honestly believe the EU would recant if MS pulled something like this.

    ...or not...could Microsoft really afford to have the EU (which has a population greater than the US) being forced to use a different OS? Sure it would be an expensive and difficult change which nobody wants to force but the results would be catastrophic to MS. If, for example, every company in the EU was forced to use Linux (or OSX) it would become extremely serious competition to Windows outside the EU.

  6. Re:Microsoft *might* be b/w a rock & hard plac by belmolis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As far as I can see, in theory, full and accurate specifications of the APIs and protocols ought to be sufficient to allow interoperability and prevent Microsoft from having an unfair advantage over competitors. The problem is that nobody trusts Microsoft to publish full and honest specs and adhere to them. They are known for having undocumented interfaces and for departing from standards. Forcing them to publish the source would let others determine the actual APIs and protocols by inspection, and we'd know whether the source they published was real because its behavior could be compared with that of Microsoft's binaries. However, this doesn't require that Microsoft license its source under the GPL. People can perfectly well implement Microsoft's APIs and protocols with their own code. What it does require, other than publishing the software with terms that do not prohibit use of the information gleaned in GPL-ed software, is freedom from patents.

    Insofar as Microsoft has been convicted of monopolistic behavior, I don't think it has a choice if publishing source code under the GPL is the only way of adressing its improper behavior. It's not like something that is insufficiently in line with capitalism is "cruel and unusual punishment". If Microsoft really doesn't want to publish its source, it seems to me that the only thing to do is to force them to stand behind their specs by imposing significant penalties for differences in behavior between their software and the specs. This could even be a way of diverting the efforts of some crackers - finding discrepancies would be a thrill, and could even be remunerative if a percentage of the fine were awarded as a bounty.

  7. Re:The article says "accepts"... by SA+Stevens · · Score: 5, Interesting

    IBM walked away from the India market this way in the 1960's. It was a delicious moment for those of us who despise government bureaucrats bearing demands.

  8. Re:Is this news anymore? by back_pages · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I seriously got the impression here on Slashdot that the EU was a reasonable, progressive, and moral government, and that it was the United States that was corrupt and doomed for destruction.

    Are you kidding me? What, pray tell, convinced you that the EU was the shining city on the hill that split from all known history? I always figured it was a bunch of people trying to broker power for their own benefit, that power being granted in turn for keeping some decorum of law and order. Maybe I was the cynic?

    I'm hardly an anachist, but show me the government that hasn't fallen and I'll show you a young government.

    I hope Europeans can stop complaining about our corrupt government, and Americans can stop whining about European governments in general, and we can all collectively recognize the lameness of basically all big world powers.

    And then what? We'll all enroll in Philosophy 101 and get stoned? Ya know, they don't call the Empire an empire for nothing. Enjoy whatever moral superiority you suppose you have. I'll enjoy my days as part of the Empire, and afterwards, we'll see who had a better time.