Knoppix 3.8.1 is Released

Bob the Anonymous Builder writes "The Knoppix LiveCD hit version 3.8.1, an update to the CeBIT Knoppix 3.8. The release features KDE 3.3.2, Gimp 2.2.4, OpenOffice 1.1.4, UnionFS, and the 2.6.11 kernel as default. The BitTorrent tracker is here."

Comments

Tracker in the summary

[wakejagr]

A good way to use the power of /.

Re:Tracker in the summary

[Celt]

You got to love bittorrent :)

KDE

[Nasarius]

It's got the latest versions of everything else, so why no KDE 3.4?

Re:KDE

[Anonymous Coward]

Because KDE 3.4 is not yet in sid?

Re:KDE

[Anonymous Coward]

That's a bit pathetic. The Gentoo devs managed to do a complete overhaul/splitup of the KDE ebuilds for 3.4, released to unstable on the same day as the official KDE 3.4 release. How? By working with the beta and RC releases.

I knew Debian stable had ancient stuff, but unstable still doesn't have a major package over 3 weeks after it was released? Wow.

Re:KDE

[jeffreymsmith]

KDE 3.4 isn't being uploaded to unstable (sid) as it would complicate preparations for the upcoming (yes, still) Sarge release. However, (experirmental) KDE 3.4 packages are available by adding the following repository to your sources.list

deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.0/ ./

These debs are built by the usual Debian KDE packaging team, and have (for me) worked out fine. See also the Debian KDE maintainers' page on installing KDE 3.4

That said, those who want to try out a Live CD with KDE 3.4 might want to take a look at the recent Kubuntu 5.04 (hoary) release.

Re:KDE

[ravee]

Ubuntu or more specifically kubuntu is bringing out kde 3.4 in its latest version of distro.

I sort of like ubuntu and they also ship the cds free which contains a live CD too.

see slashdot news at :
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/ 08/ 1213250&tid=162&tid=121&tid=106

Seeding

[BandwidthHog]

Knoppix has helped me a few times to rescue systems for my friends foolish enough to keep using Windows. Since I've received great benefit at no cost, I keep a torrent of it perpetually running (almost 98GB to date). Even if you can't contribute code directly, you can use the bandwidth that you already pay for to benefit others and, indirectly, the Knoppix developers.

Karma... it's not just for slashdot any more.

Re:Seeding

[croddy]

Seeding (Score:1)
by BandwidthHog (257320)

:-)

Re:Seeding

[BandwidthHog]

I usually take every opportunity I can to get a +1, Funny based on my (poorly chosen) username if the story warrants it, but in this case I didn't even think about it till after I made that comment.

Re:Seeding

[Arctic Dragon]

If you want your friends to give Linux a try, why not show them the benefits of Linux instead of calling them "foolish" and other names? No wonder non-technical people think Linux sealots are jerks.

Re:Seeding

[Arctic Dragon]

I hate to reply to my own post, but I misspelled zealots. :-)

Re:Seeding

[thephotoman]

Actually, I can't use my bandwidth to help them out. I'm behind a firewall, sadly, and I'm unable to get any bittorrent access. I would if I could, though!

Re:Seeding

[Kizzle]

Ok grammar zealot

Re:Seeding

[bcmm]

Silly question, but are you allowed to open port 6881, TCP?
That would be enough for one torrent at a time.

Re:Seeding

[BandwidthHog]

Fear not, I'm no Linux zealot, I'm an elitist asshole. The best way to tell us apart is that we have funny looking computers and a sex life.

I think maybe you read too much into my post, though. I was talking about rescuing people's stuff after Windows has screwed them. When that happens and you keep on using Windows, yes, that's foolish. There is, however, a difference between taking note of foolish behavior and calling someone a fool.

Re:Seeding

[Arctic Dragon]

I won't argue with that. If someone has his/her Windows installation hosed on a monthly basis, an OS change may be in order. Or at least a good "how to keep your computer secure" lesson.

FTP Links While they Last!

[keeleysam]

ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.8 .1-2005-04-08-DE.iso
ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.8 .1-2005-04-08-EN.iso
If you have BitTorrent, PLEASE do dont use these.

what's new

[Anonymous Coward]

what's new since 3.6 pics

From the changelog:

[keeleysam]

ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX-CHAN GELOG.txt

* V3.8.1-2005-04-08
- Lots and lots of package updates
- Integration of UNIONFS for full write support in the live session
- Capability + utilities for using loopback virtual disk drives on NTFS
(saving system changes and home directory permanently on disk)
- Kernel 2.6.11 (Kernel 2.4.x removed)
- ipw2100 and ipw2200 (Centrino WLAN) support
- RAlink rt2400 and rt2500 WLAN support
- ndiswrapper update
- FreeNX update (client and Server)
- Added: qemu, kwifimanager
- OpenOffice 1.1.4
- KDE 3.3.2 from Debian/unstable
- Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird from Debian/unstable
- Live updates/software installations can now be done via kpackage thanks to unionfs

grammar nit...

[tomstdenis]

"$NOUN is released" is poor English because the tense and verb do not agree.

"$NOUN has been released."

Is proper.

Or

"$NOUN is available for release."

(tenative)

Or

"$NOUN has been made available for release."

(past tense) ....

Anyways, it's a bad habit since I tend to write that as well...

Tom

Re:grammar nit...

[wed128]

I suck at grammer, but doesn't "$NOUN is released" just mean "$NOUN is [in a state of having been] released"?

I'm not sure, but is it not valid to force the tense that way?

Re:grammar nit...

[tomstdenis]

is == present
released == past

Really that simple.

Put this another way, with that grammar you could write

"The post is wrote" ... "I am worked" ... etc...

You could alternatively say "$NOUN was released" but normally you qualify that with a time, e.g. "was released today."

"has been released." indicates a sense of time... e.g. "very recent past".

Tom

Re:grammar nit...

[alacqua]

Although I agree that "x is released" is stretching it and "x has been released" should be preferred, I think the grandparent was correct. "x is released" could be construed as "x is [in the state called] released". I think the analog would not be "the post is wrote" as you said, but "the post is written".

Re:grammar nit...

[Anonymous Coward]

This sentence structure seems to be common in headlines. eg "Man lands on the moon", "Hurricane hits Florida".

I just installed Knoppix on a laptop the other day

[Toby_Tyke]

I was just given an old dell Latitude laptop a few days ago, and I tried a few distros on it. Fedora and Slackware both refused to play nice with the graphics card, so I tried booting from an old Knoppix 3.3 CD I had knocking around.

Needless to say, Knoppix not only booted but managed to configure everything automatically. So I just did a "$ knx-hdinstall".

Funny thing is, the install process was actually a damn sight easier than a lot of non-live distros.

Falcon's Eye

[Cheapy]

Did they bring Falcon's Eye back?

I remember using Knoppix for a while, then I downloaded a new version of it (after somehow losing the older one) and saw it had no nethack-type game...I was using Windows a lot more after that.

99.3% free

[Anonymous Coward]

Anyone know what the vrms output is for a fresh install of this version?

Last version was 8 packages (0.7%). Anyone else sorta keeping an eye on this?

My Windows drive is dead

[Anonymous Coward]

It won't boot, and I can't seem to recover the data. I've put it as a slave in my other XP machine; partitions come up blank, I ran Knoppix 3.3 with it; partitions come up blank. I know the data is still there, the partition sizes etc are still there (it's NTFS). Is this latest Knoppix any better at recovering data than the Knoppix 3.3 cd was, or have there been no major developments in this field?

If Knoppix could recover this drive for me I'd be quite prepared to make a big (read: as much as I can without selling myself) donation to them.

Re:My Windows drive is dead

[rduke15]

Try the freezer trick. I once salvaged the data from a dead drive this way.

It may not work but is worth a try, even if your symptoms are different from mine. In my case, the drive was clicking and even the partition table seemed hosed. After a few hours in the freezer, I could copy all but a few files before it definitely died.

Of course, if in your case the drive is fine, but the partitions got damaged by software, it won't help and will probably destroy the drive.

Re:My Windows drive is dead

[Anonymous Coward]

Freezer??!? Won't the warm air inside the HD cool down and cause the HD to get wet?

Stupid female killed?

[rduke15]

Has that stupid/annoying/embarrassing woman, talking during boot and shutdown been killed at last, or at least silenced?

OK, I'm too hard. And maybe in real life, she's a really nice person. Let's just remove the audio file of her voice and hang the idiot who recorded it and put it on the CD.

Or is the above mentioned idiot Mr Knopper himself? Well, we don't want to hang _him_.

There must be a solution...

Re:Stupid female killed?

[kwoff]

I thought that it was pretty cool, myself.

Re:Stupid female killed?

[bmcqueen]

Its an audio clip from Halo. Its the voice of the computer.

Re:Stupid female killed?

[Anonymous Coward]

>> There must be a solution...

Yeah, like re-mastering the CD perhaps?

Seriously, it's part of the documentation. Don't like something, make it your own way. FOSS works that way.

No wuit whining ;)

Captive NTFS working right yet?

[suitepotato]

I would really like to see this working reliably, I'll have to download, burn, and test. Oh boy.

All in all though, it is the live CD that works the most solidly across multiple hardware configs so if the *nix community can keep this up, they might eventually really have something to challenge Windows on desktops for clueless newbies.