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Space Elevator Update

TheMadReaper writes "The 2005 edition of the Space Exploration Conference in Albuquerque, NM came to a conclusion earlier this week. A large fraction of the conference was devoted to the Space Elevator. Surprisingly, there hasn't been much news coverage of this conference, perhaps because it doesn't have Space Elevator in its name. The most interesting fact I got from the conference is that money is really starting to exist in the space elevator world mainly thanks to the work of Dr. Bradley Edwards at ISR and at Carbon Designs, Inc. The strong nanotube talk was also more promising than last year."

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  1. Money by Zapper · · Score: 2, Funny
    The big news since the last conference is that ISR finally has received the money congress had earmarked for it...

    I guess if enough money is pumped into this it will finally get off the ground sooner rather than later.
    No, wait. We don't want it to get off the ground do we?
    Would be cool to see this in our lifetimes.

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    1. Re:Money by hunterx11 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Anyone who wants to build another Tower of Babel because they read about it in the Bible clearly didn't finish reading it.

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    2. Re:Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Anyone who wants to build another Tower of Babel because they read about it in the Bible clearly didn't finish reading it.

      Or else they own a cable company and a really big raft.

    3. Re:Money by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Funny
      Mass drivers help you get into orbit, but they don't help you return from orbit at all. In a space elevator, though, you just press the "down" button. Simple as that.

      It sounds really simple, but what if someone pushes ALL the buttons on the way down? If you're stopping every ten feet, it'll take forever.

    4. Re:Money by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Funny

      you should have seen the Great Tower of China before it tipped over and became The Great Wall of China

  2. More practical update... by isny · · Score: 5, Funny

    Update: Still on ground floor.

    1. Re:More practical update... by Jerf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Right now our biggest practical problem is working out how to include roughly 23.5 million buttons for floors in the elevator compartment.

      Our previous best accomplishment in this domain, pioneered by the great elevator engineer Willy Wonka with his ground breaking, or rather sky-light breaking, Glass Elevator, is short by several orders of magnitude. (You can also see early Space Elevator technology there, but we've not been able to replicate his claimed performance without a tether; see the report in the sequel to the Chocolate Factory book.)

      I am confident once we overcome that problem that everything else should be easy.

      (If you're wondering where that number came from, that's geosync orbit at 22,241 miles, times two as I'm using the elevator variant that continues on out for counterweight and flinging ability, and estimating 10 feet per "floor", so 22241 * 2 * 528 = 23,486,496.)

  3. Space elevator: really a good idea? by boingyzain · · Score: 5, Funny

    The music in normal elevators is already driving me crazy...

    Imagine going upwards for hundred sof miles while having to listen to Julio Iglesias' songs, performed by some guy on a synthesizer. NOOOOOO!

    1. Re:Space elevator: really a good idea? by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Girl from Ipanema for 62,000 miles...gaah.

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  4. In a post 9/11 world... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    In a post 9/11 world, space elevators are WMD's

    ...err wait, I guess in any world there would be mass destruction if one fell.

    My bad.

  5. Are you being served? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ground floor perfumery,
    stationery and leather goods,
    wigs and haberdashery
    kitchenware and food...going up

    First floor telephones,
    gents ready-made suits,
    shirts, socks, ties, hats,
    underwear and shoes...going up

    Second floor carpets,
    travel goods and bedding,
    material, soft furnishings,
    restaurant and teas. Going down!

  6. Re:kg/lb by isny · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since it refers to operating costs, I can only assume kilograms refers to something of great value, such as gold or cocaine. Or, gold pressed latinum, if you're REALLY off in fantasyland.

  7. Re:Talk about a nonstarter! by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Jeez, try to imagine the havoc if the cable comes loose from its orbital anchor.

    But it would make a great seventies-style movie, sort of like "Towering Inferno". Frankly, I'm surprised that nobody has made a bad movie about a collapsing space elevator, now that we have all these computers. A space elevator would likely take several hours to fall, which is perfect for a movie.

    Scene I. The Ribbon-Cutting Ceremony.
    THE PRESIDENT: [Holding large pair of scissors] It is with great fanfare that I dedicate this space elevator to the United States of America, and its coalition of willing allied nations all over the world, without whom this great day might not have been possible.[Prepares to cut]
    SCIENTIST: No, Mr. President! Cut the green horizontal ribbon! Not the black vertical one!

  8. Re:kg/lb by iCEBaLM · · Score: 4, Funny

    I feel sorry for the poor SOB who pays for his trip on the space elevator in US $2 bills.

  9. Warning label you won't see by boingyzain · · Score: 5, Funny

    A warning label you won't see on the space elevator:

    In emergency, USE STAIRS.

  10. Even more apt, and more useless by AtariAmarok · · Score: 3, Funny
    "A warning label you won't see on the space elevator: In emergency, USE STAIRS."

    This is a space elevator we are talking about. Might as well have the sign say "In case of emergency, use stars."

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  11. Re:Getting stuck? by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Funny

    In other news there are a lot of people who are now dead.

  12. Re:What happens when lightning strikes the nanotub by aussie_a · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't worry, once it's struck by lightning once it'll never happen again. So don't hop on the thing until lightning hits it.

  13. Re:What happens when lightning strikes the nanotub by KoshClassic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can't we just build a really, really, tall lightning rod next to the 62,000 mile space elevator? :)

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  14. Re:Is the space elevator a bit premature? by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Funny

    When somebody has built a 40,000 millimeter bridge across a creek on campus, then we can start to talk about a 40,000 kilometer bridge straight up

    They really should try for a 40 meter bridge first, then go for 400 decimeter, before attempting the 40,000 millimeter.

    Dan East

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  15. Re:Is the space elevator a bit premature? by Jardine · · Score: 3, Funny

    "When somebody has built a 40,000 millimeter bridge across a creek on campus, then we can start to talk about a 40,000 kilometer bridge straight up".

    I agree with the point of the post, but where are you finding a creek that needs a 40 metre long bridge to cross it? I don't think a flowing body of water approaching 40 metres across can properly be called a creek.

    How about a 4000mm bridge across a creek?

  16. Melts in your space, not on your planet by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Our previous best accomplishment in this domain, pioneered by the great elevator engineer Willy Wonka with his ground breaking...."

    Ground-breaking is right! Mr. Wonka's ingenious solution to base the elevator on a weave of microchocolate fibres is to be applauded. However, once the sun shone on this, the chocolate string melted and the elevator hit like a meteor.

    Next time, Mr. Wonka, consider using Oompa-Loompa hair fibers. Or maybe you can beam astronauts into space with that TV ray. Who cares if they come back from their mission 1 inch high?

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    1. Re:Melts in your space, not on your planet by Jerf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, according to the report chronicled in Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator (should have gone ahead and taken the time to look this up in my initial post), he made it out into space just fine.

      However, this is even more questionable scientifically than the already outrageous claims made in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. If memory serves, while in space, Charlie and Mr. Wonka encounter an Alien Race bent on Mankind's destruction (The "Vermicious Knids", I think?), of which no independent corroborating evidence has ever been found, and at one point he claims to journey to a place where people of negative age reside, a very strange claim indeed.

      Still, despite the lack of evidence, one can't argue that it is some of the best research to date on Space Elevators, as measured by the very popular "I wish, I wish, I wish this were true" metric. (See also: Cold Fusion, most (though, narrowly, not all) alternative fuel discussions, NATURE'S HARMONIC SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE, the feasibility of FTL.)

  17. Re:kg/lb by arodland · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apparently the operating costs of a space elevator will be approximately 0.45359 -- no units -- no matter where it's going or how much stuff you're lifting. That's potentially a good thing, although we still have to figre out how to come up with 0.45359. Has anyone ever seen a number? (No, I don't mean a numeral.)

  18. Re:NOOOO!!!! by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh you've got to be kidding me. Name one Adam Sandler movie that has not been a disaster.

  19. Re:new extreme sport.. by mr.mighty · · Score: 2, Funny
    As long as youre wearing a spacesuit theres no reason why you couldn't base jump off to escape... ...Or for the fainter of heart - atmospheric bungee jumping!
    ... except for burning up on re-entry. Or getting flung into space into space.
  20. Re:Getting stuck? by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Funny
    What if you happen to get stuck at some weird altitude out of reach of help?


    Nobody said space travel was gonna be easy.... suck it up and jump, ya pansy!

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  21. Re:kg/lb by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 2, Funny

    Has anyone ever seen a number?

    I can't say I've ever seen one, but I seem to recall that Sesame Street was always brought to me by one.

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  22. Re:Take the stairs! by FusionDragon2099 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I highly doubt anyone here can even walk one flight of stairs, let alone a thousand. I'd rather sit and starve.