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Space Elevator Update

TheMadReaper writes "The 2005 edition of the Space Exploration Conference in Albuquerque, NM came to a conclusion earlier this week. A large fraction of the conference was devoted to the Space Elevator. Surprisingly, there hasn't been much news coverage of this conference, perhaps because it doesn't have Space Elevator in its name. The most interesting fact I got from the conference is that money is really starting to exist in the space elevator world mainly thanks to the work of Dr. Bradley Edwards at ISR and at Carbon Designs, Inc. The strong nanotube talk was also more promising than last year."

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  1. kg/lb by X1011 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Operating costs estimated at 100 kg/lb, ready in 15 years at most optimistic.

    Kilograms per pound? What is that?

  2. new extreme sport.. by sentientbeing · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As long as youre wearing a spacesuit theres no reason why you couldn't base jump off to escape... ...Or for the fainter of heart - atmospheric bungee jumping!

    Man what a rush.

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  3. Re:Call me a nay-sayer... by mbrother · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You're wrong.

    You pick up orbital speed, slowly, as you move up the elevator. Think about it this way. There is a geostationary point the elevator passes through, at very high altitude. Altitudes lower than this, the rigid rotation of the space elevator is below orbital speed. Altitudes above it, it is above orbital speed. This effect means the gravity changes as you ride it, and, in fact, you can use the top end of it to lauch space craft.

    I've got a space elevator in my new novel (under revision). Arthur C. Clarke features on in Fountains of Paradise. Kim Stanley Robinson and Charles Sheffield also have them in novels. If you want more than novels, there are some technical nonfiction books out there, eg., The Space Elevator by Edwards and Westling.

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  4. Re:Talk about a nonstarter! by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The surviving fragments of an orbital tether would not have the requisite mass to produce the sort of wave disturbances you postulate. Actually, from most accounts, the worst health hazard resulting from a broken orbital tether would be small fragments of nanotube floating about in the atmosphere, eventually drifting to ground level and getting lodged in the lungs (as it turns out, carbon nanotubes are about the same size as asbestos fibers...perfect for getting lodged in the lungs).

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  5. Building a ladder to heaven by unfortunateson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A space elevator, or beanstalk, has two big problems for construction: 1) materials that are strong enough, and 2) getting it to stay up.

    The first we're getting close to being able to handle. The second is just a matter of having a counterweight that balances the 22,500 miles of cable from the equator (more on that later) to the top. Without the counterweight, the ground end drags it down.

    That means that we really need to build this sucker from the middle out: extend equal masses out and in (or up and down, if you prefer) from geosynchronous orbit. That's a very expensive proposition. Whether it's cheaper to ship carbon for nanotubes up or go and fetch some carbonaceous asteroids down to our orbit I'll leave as an exercise for the reader.

    A poster above was concerned about the terrorist target of something like this. The one consolation in this one is that you can't build it on US or European soil: it needs to be at the equator. At least one SF author (I forget which) posited an elevator whose ground-level terminus was an upside-down Y to two islands straddling the equator some hundreds of miles apart. Not the silliest thing I've ever read, but I'm not sure it makes much sense. Tethering one end down will be tricky enough.

    So it won't be Imperialist America that's building it... but that's not to say it won't have protestors. It'll cast a shadow pretty much across the entire planet. It will likely change weather patterns in the region.

    It will create the most valuable real estate in the world.

    It's going to end up in some place where technology and resources are accessible: Brazil, Equador, Congo, Somalia, The Maldives, Indonesia, Malaysia, or some Pacific Island are all candidates, my money is on a spot just south of Singapore -- there's enough high-tech industrial nations close enough to justify it there. Brazil is my second guess.

    And who knows, maybe we'll find Saddam building WMDs up there. (obligatory Funny whoring)

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  6. Re:Getting stuck? by ArbitraryConstant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "If you're stuck high and above, you might have the space shuttle come and rescue you."

    No.

    At altitudes the shuttle can reach, the relative velocity between the shuttle and the elevator would be too great for a transfer.

    Also, the shuttle can reach a few hundred kilometers. Not sure specifically what the limit is, but it's under a thousand kilometers. A space elevator has to go all the way up to geosynchronous orbit, which is 35786 km. You're out of reach for most of the journey.

    It wouldn't be that hard (relative to the cost of the project anyway) to have an escape pod in elevator cars that have to carry humans. That could carry passangers back to earth, as they'd be in free fall for the most part.

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