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ISPs in Argentina Must Log Everything

hjf writes "According to a new presidential decree, and effective July 31, 2005, telecom carriers in Argentina will have to log every activity, including Internet chats, website visits, e-mails, phone calls, etc, made in Argentina. The data must be stored for 10 years, and must be available to the police and intelligence agencies within one hour, 24 hours a day. The telecom companies must pay for 'everything': software, hardware, and human resources, and will be required to use state-of-the-art technology as soon as it is available. This news was known already in specialized circles, but only yesterday it was published in major media. This is causing outrage among legislators and businessmen. Lawyers claim that it violates privacy laws and Constitutional rights (article 14), and the 'presumptive innocence principle' (innocent until proven guilty)." (The Fish comes in handy yet again.)

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  1. Re:huhhuh by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    they make only 25 mbytes of traffic, total?

    just logging connections wouldn't be a big deal - logging what goes in the connections is and this is pretty much what this bill apparently is about.

    and just considering some telecom offering phone service in a million inhabitant city. they'd probably need to upgrade the phone network itself though to be able to do what they 'must' now.

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  2. i2p, freenet by jago25_98 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My i2p node is up and if I could so would freenet.

    Perhaps mod offtopic if you feel the plug isn't worthy.

    Not that either of these technologies can do much against 10 years though...

    1. Re:i2p, freenet by amphibian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It depends... If the crypto is cracked in 10 years, and they come back and identify all the illegal files you were sharing... :( If they make anonymous P2P illegal, they can find all freenet and i2p nodes (with the current architectures of freenet and i2p - one day this may change) very quickly. And then shut them down.

  3. You think politicians in the U.S. are bad? by Gherald · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Fifteen years ago I moved to Argentina and lived there for 10 years. The government and police are extremely corrupt, almost mafia-like.

    It's every [extended] family for themselves... they have clubs where you go barter for stuff with credit chips because the Argentine peso is worthless.

    Ironically, I moved out right as the dollar became uber strong when the peso was devalued...

    But I don't think this decree will amount to much do to the sheer impracticalities and economic costs of implementing such a massive log system. ISPs will either do their utmost to avoid following this to the letter, or go out of business.

    P.S. People in Argentina don't care much about privacy in general. For instance, they literally have no concept of personal space and will stand like 1 cm from your face while talking to you.

  4. Re:more sadistic option by Drishmung · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What about spam?

    Does your ISP filter spam for you? If so, I presume it does not count against your download cap. I also assume that the ISP has to archive all this spam that you never wanted, or read, or even received, but which was nevertheless sent to you.

    So, every piece of spam to enter Argentina has to be archived for ten years?

    Do they also archive every port scan, every ping, every Blaster and Sasser packet? Every ARP?

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