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Gordon Moore: Moore's Law is Dead

Golygydd Max writes "Moore's Law will not hold forever, claims Gordon Moore. In a Techworld article, he points out the limitations of the law, in particular, the limitations as we approach the size of atoms. He helpfully explains, however, that the law will hold for a few years yet." Still, sticking around for forty years is pretty impressive.

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  1. Title? by yotto · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't you mean: Gordon Moore: Moore's Law is still alive

    He helpfully explains, however, that the law will hold for a few years yet.

    1. Re:Title? by Infinityis · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can see the exchange now...somewhere in a muddy field, a cart goes by, while Gordon Moore comes out to meet it

      CART MASTER: Bring out your dead!

      GORDON MOORE: Here's one.

      CART MASTER: Ninepence.

      MOORE'S LAW: I'm not dead!

      CART MASTER: What?

      GORDON MOORE: Nothing. Here's your ninepence.

      MOORE'S LAW: I'm not dead!

      CART MASTER: 'Ere. He says he's not dead!

      GORDON MOORE: Yes, he is.

      MOORE'S LAW: I'm not!

      CART MASTER: He isn't?

      GORDON MOORE: Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.

      MOORE'S LAW: I'm getting better!

      GORDON MOORE: No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.

      CART MASTER: Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.

      MOORE'S LAW: I don't want to go on the cart!

      GORDON MOORE: Oh, don't be such a baby.

      CART MASTER: I can't take him.

      MOORE'S LAW: I feel fine!

      GORDON MOORE: Well, do us a favour.

      CART MASTER: I can't.

      GORDON MOORE: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.

      CART MASTER: No, I've got to go to the Bernoulli's. They've lost nine laws today.

      GORDON MOORE: Well, when's your next round?

      CART MASTER: Thursday.

      MOORE'S LAW: I think I'll go for a walk.

      GORDON MOORE: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn't there something you can do?

      MOORE'S LAW: [singing] I feel happy. I feel happy. [whop]

      GORDON MOORE: Ah, thanks very much.

      CART MASTER: Not at all. See you on Thursday.

      GORDON MOORE: Right. All right.

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  2. Oh sure mr. smarty pants! by Cylix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who is the Gordon fellow? He thinks he is soooo smart that he can comment on the already tried and true Moore's Law.

    I'll tell ya, the nerve of some people, sheesh.

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    1. Re:Oh sure mr. smarty pants! by Chyeld · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude! Have you followed his research at Black Mesa? He's an up and comer! Oh wait....

    2. Re:Oh sure mr. smarty pants! by baudbarf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Overheard on a street corner in Europe in the 1600's:

      "Who is this Galileo fellow? He thinks he is soooo smart that he can comment on the already tried and true geocentric model of the solar system. I'll tell ya, the nerve of some people, sheesh."
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    3. Re:Oh sure mr. smarty pants! by elgatozorbas · · Score: 3, Funny
      Who is the Gordon fellow? He thinks he is soooo smart that he can comment on the already tried and true Moore's Law

      You moron! He is the one who wame up with the law. I can prove it, 'cause I have the original magazine lying around here somewhere. If you don't believe me, give me your address and I'll send it to you to check yourself. Tssk!

    4. Re:Oh sure mr. smarty pants! by Moofie · · Score: 1, Funny

      That moist "thwap" sound was the joke hitting you in the forehead. Good job, sparky.

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  3. Other laws, however... by Mr+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    still reign supreme. Godwin's, in particular.

    (Probably going to get modded down by nazi mods)

    1. Re:Other laws, however... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      supreme law? What are you some kind of nazi?

    2. Re:Other laws, however... by DigitumDei · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ahh you see, the secret is to demand that they do not mod you down...

      (Don't you DARE mod me down)

    3. Re:Other laws, however... by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, but using the Nazis in an attempt to invoke Godwin's Law invariably fails.

      It's along the lines of "washing your car to make it rain doesn't work", or to put it more succinctly:

      Silverman's Paradox: If Murphy's Law can go wrong, it will.

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  4. Trumping the CEO! by plover · · Score: 4, Funny
    It must suck to be Intel's CEO and be quoted 43 days ago as saying "No end in sight for Moore's Law." Especially when the person pronouncing it dead is its author.

    Oh, well, it's been pronounced dead more often than BSD on Slashdot, so it actually means very little. Even coming from Gordon Moore.

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  5. On another note by Nimloth · · Score: 4, Funny

    Meanwhile I suspect that the number of articles saying Moore's law can't go on forever will double every month on /. starting now.

    1. Re:On another note by Chris+Kamel · · Score: 2, Funny

      just once every 18 months...

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    2. Re:On another note by plover · · Score: 2, Funny
      Actually, I think it means we should see an exponential growth in the number of duplicate stories on /.

      Oh, wait. We already have! :-)

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  6. This techworld article.. by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Will it be worth $10,000 in forty years?

    it may well buy a couple gallons of gas

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  7. The Moore's Law story of the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm glad to see we are switching from the Google story of the day, to the Moore's law story of the day!

  8. Re:40 years is impressive? by Momoru · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess Ray Kurzeil's predictions that computers will have the same power as the human brain by 2020 will not be met...

  9. Or... by finrock · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think what is more surprising is how Moore's Law continues to accurately predict the ever increasing number of Slashdot articles on the subject of Moore's Law!

  10. It's not dead by katana · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's only mostly dead.

  11. Moore and the Future by Flywheels+of+Fire · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the TFA:Finally, asked if there were any new laws for next 40 years, he said: "I'll rest on my laurels on this one! I'm not close enough now to make new predictions - several things have been called Moore's Second Law but I can't take credit for any of them."

    Here's are some thoughts from me:

    1. Quantum Technology and/or Bio-molecular computing will become the next big thing.
    2. Software Patents will effectively make software development exclusively a big player game
    3. Virus infected nano-bots will wreak havok.
    4. High fuel prices will effectively slow the pace of technological development all around.
    5. Slashdot will hire paid editors.
  12. Moore's law is correct ... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 2, Funny

    Until Murphy's law probes the oposite. ;-)

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  13. I don't see the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It states that the number of transistors on a chip doubles every 18 months, doesn't it?

    I must have missed the bit where it states that the size of chips stays constant. There's no requirement for transistors to get smaller to keep up with Moore's Law. The chips could get bigger.

  14. Perhaps dead with silicone by argoff · · Score: 3, Funny

    .. but there are lots of other technologies, esp quantum... where once established you can doubble the calculation capacity every 18 months without very much dificulty.

  15. Re:40 years is impressive? by Phleg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Modern computers already match us in terms of raw power. However, our operating system is *way* cooler, and we get better peripherals :)

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  16. Re:forever? by SmokeHalo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will anything hold forever?

    Krazy Glue and anyone on the phone with Symantec.

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  17. Re:It can be done now by RealAlaskan · · Score: 3, Funny
    ... we can't even make a machine as intelligent as a honey bee (only about 1 million neurons), what good would a system with a hundred billion neurons be other than to sit and vegetate?

    But think how fast it could vegetate!

    The real strength of computers is that they can make mistakes so much faster than we puny, limited humans. A vegetative system system with a hundred billion neurons would obviously be superior to us puny humans because it could make human-scale mistakes unimaginably quickly, as it sat there, quietly vegetating ... inert.

    Right! A vegetative system system with a hundred billion neurons would obviously be superior to us puny humans because it could sit there and do nothing, and do it very fast indeed.

  18. Re: It can be done now by dfn5 · · Score: 4, Funny
    what good would a system with a hundred billion neurons be other than to sit and vegetate?

    I guess nothing. Remove the feeding tube.

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  19. Re:Is Intel using this by Nightreaver · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if they could shrink the size of atoms... THAT would be innovative!

  20. Bring out your dead... by drkich · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.
    [a man puts Moore's Law on the cart]
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Here's one.
    The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence.
    The Dead Moore's Law That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.
    The Dead Collector: What?
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Nothing. There's your ninepence.
    The Dead Moore's Law That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.
    The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Yes he is.
    The Dead Moore's Law That Claims It Isn't: I'm not.
    The Dead Collector: He isn't.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
    The Dead Moore's Law That Claims It Isn't: I'm getting better.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
    The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
    The Dead Moore's Law That Claims It Isn't: I don't want to go on the cart.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Oh, don't be such a baby.
    The Dead Collector: I can't take him.
    The Dead Moore's Law That Claims It Isn't: I feel fine.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Oh, do me a favor.
    The Dead Collector: I can't.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
    The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Well, when's your next round?
    The Dead Collector: Thursday.
    The Dead Moore's Law That Claims It Isn't: I think I'll go for a walk.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?
    The Dead Moore's Law That Claims It Isn't: I feel happy. I feel happy.
    [the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Law with his a whack of his club]
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Ah, thank you very much.
    The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
    Large Man with Dead Moore's Law: Right.

  21. Moore's law has been dead for a while now by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Funny

    it's just noone puled the feeding tube yet.

  22. Re:40 years is impressive? by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 5, Funny
    I guess Ray Kurzeil's predictions that computers will have the same power as the human brain by 2020 will not be met...

    I think you underestimate the rate at which human brainpower is decreasing... ;-)

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  23. Re:oops I mean silicon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    does it really matter? they both allow things to double in size...

  24. In other news by objekt · · Score: 3, Funny
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  25. That's nothing by p51d007 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heck, we have laws in this country that were passed less than a year ago that have been broken already LOL.... I remember when I was a kid, someone printed in the local newspaper some "old obscure" laws of our town still on the books. One was that during the week of the fair, you had to walk your vehicle (horse and buggy) across the railroad tracks. Well, me and my buddies figured if it was a law, we sure didn't want to break it. We got a couple long pieces of rope, tied it to the front bumper of my moms car (back then cars had these heavy things on the front and rear of the cars called bumpers). When we were making the circle around town, everytime we came to the railroad tracks, we'd put the car in neutral, jump out and pull the car across the railroad tracks. It was pretty funny the 3 times we did it....but on the fourth the cops showed up and asked us what the H*LL we were doing. We told him walking our vehicle across the tracks like the law says. Needless to say, he didn't see the humor in that....

  26. Of course Moore's Law is dead by utoddl · · Score: 3, Funny

    Of course Moore's Law is dead. And I predict that in 18 months it will be twice as dead.

  27. Re:Fox News take on the subject... by reezle · · Score: 3, Funny

    But at 1:23 p.m., Fox News Channel anchor Shepard
    Smith reported that {Moore's Law} had died. At least
    initially, he did not cite sources.

    By 1:30 p.m., Fox reporter Greg Palkot in Rome was
    sending signals of caution, saying the report had not
    been confirmed and the network was checking into it.

    "The exact time of death, I think, is not something that
    matters so much at this moment for we will be reliving
    {Moore's Law} for many days and weeks and even years
    and decades and centuries to come," Smith said.