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Free/Open-Access Academic Journals Growing

An anonymous reader writes "Wired News reports on the growing number of free/open-access academic journals. The Directory of Open Access Journals lists 1527 journals. The Public Library of Science (PLoS) is launching three new open-access journals this year: PLoS Computational Biology, PLoS Genetics and PLoS Pathogens. The National Institutes of Health's (NIH) Public Access Policy is also part of the movement. The traditional academic journals aren't happy, saying that it's unethical to accept money for publishing. But the traditional journals face their own ethical dilemmas by accepting money from advertisers."

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  1. Isn't that what research is for? by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's unethical to accept money for publishing? As opposed to what, not being published at all?

    If your knowledge isn't shared, what's the point of research? And if traditional academic journals won't publish your research because of a simple lack of space, why shouldn't you seek alternative outlets?

    It seems to me that this is a wonderful thing. Persistent knowledge--that's the key to human intellectual evolution, and what makes us so much smarter than those other dumb monkeys. Anything that facilitates this process will only make us collectively smarter.

    1. Re:Isn't that what research is for? by ghoti · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The point is that if you pay to have your paper published, then perhaps the reviewing standards arent't that strict. And what makes a good journal is a tough reviewing process that will only let the best papers get published (see the story about the randomly generated paper a few stories back for a counterexample ...).

      You are right of course, that research should be published - but publications are also a measure of academic acievement. So if everything gets published , how can you tell what is useful and what is crap?

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    2. Re:Isn't that what research is for? by kfg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is essentially the Consumer Reports model brought to its logical conlusion on the web and in some form or other is obviously (i.e. everyone knows that)the ideal model for scientific publication. It provides for the unfettered flow of information (the very foundation of science) while still providing some measure of peer review. If the information flows freely there is no specter of wondering whose monetary interests are controling the flow (well, ok, there is, but that's a more subtle issue than the one we are addressing here. See my previous post on political finance, as well as the one I just made on using copyright to maintain a stranglehold on distribution).

      In the old days we invented a crude version of this. We called it "usenet." The commercial journals did not crumble, just as Road & Track did not crumble with the publication of Consumer Reports.

      Why not? Because R&T sold something the public found useful in addition to what Consumer Reports sold.

      For instance, not just statistics on reliability of a particular car, or even CR's opinion of the qualtities of a particular car, but Peter Egan's and Phil Hill's opinion of a particular car. To certain people the opinion of Peter or Phil held a certain importance, because of who they were and their background.

      And what the commercial journals are selling is the the opinion of their jury that a particular piece is worthy of publication in their particular journal.

      If they fail to do this in a manner that provides value, they will fail, as they should. (Once again see my post on copyright for what this means to business models).

      If a new technology obsoletes your business model I have some advice for you.

      Shut the hell up.

      Use all that time, money and energy you spend whining to find a place in the new businesses that new technologies necessarily create.

      That, of course, requires a certain intelligence. I would like to think that scientific journals have an intelligent person or three hanging about the offices, despite some of the empirical evidence to the contrary.

      KFG

    3. Re:Isn't that what research is for? by Bucky_the_AV_Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Interestingly enough, one of the biggest pushes towards these open journals in the in the Bio field. However, traditionally in the Bio field the best journals - Nature (and all its varients such as Nature Biotech, Nature Genetics etc...), Science etc... all charge for publication. These are by far some of the hardest journals to get into, have some of the strictest review processes and are consistantly rated as having the highest impact factors (a measure of how influential a report in one of these journals typically is on the field it is involved in). So it is not really true to say that having to pay to have your paper published means that the reviewing standards are not strict.

      One of the big pushes of the open access journals is to stop the need for people to pay to READ the journal articles. If you do not have access to the journal through your academic institution because they do not carry a subscription, it often costs between $7 and $10 per article to download it from most journals. This is what one of the biggest concerns is - how can the information have impact on the research community if no one can afford to access it. Imagine paying for an article that sounded good because of the abstract but turned out to be completely useless to you.

      The top tier journals generally do not have to worry about this because basically any library at any decent University will have access to Nature and Science. It is the smaller, perhaps more focused journals that are a problem.

      Now as for the comment of if everything is published how do you know what is "crap"? Well - partly you have to take everything you read with a grain of salt. Even papers in the absolute top tier journals get retracted or disproven. A lot of biologist still use the internet to do research - and there are no publication standards there - you have to make those decisions for yourself.

  2. Isn't that what research is for?-War. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "It seems to me that this is a wonderful thing. Persistent knowledge--that's the key to human intellectual evolution, and what makes us so much smarter than those other dumb monkeys. Anything that facilitates this process will only make us collectively smarter."

    How can such a "smart" species, have such a "dumb" concept as war?

  3. It's about time. But why the huge author costs? by DoctoRoR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I never understood the economics of peer-reviewed scientific journals. The authors don't get any money and are usually tech-savvy enough to produce well-formatted papers. The peer-reviewers (at least when I peer reviewed) didn't get any money. And being an editor is an academic feather in your cap. So the cost of content and the cost of reviewing the content is close to zero. But some journals cost individuals and especially the institutions a large amount of money. In this day of electronic typesetting and distribution, does it make any sense?

    Take the New England Journal of Medicine. It's about $150 for an individual subscription and ranges from $1000 to $17,000 for institutions depending on the size. This is for a publication that doesn't pay authors, and in fact can make authors bend over backwards. No wonder all sorts of publication models are being explored.

    1. Re:It's about time. But why the huge author costs? by evvk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > Electronic typesetting is not cheap,

      Yes it is. Ever head of LaTeX? Many journals in the more tech-savvy fields (maths/cs/physics/engineering) want camera ready documents using their provided LaTeX document class.

    2. Re:It's about time. But why the huge author costs? by Phillip2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "This is incorrect. Formatting even simple papers is difficult, let alone ones with complex graphs and tables. It's not something an author can (or wants) to do."

      This is patent nonsense. About 90% of the papers that I have published to require camera ready copy. In general the most that the publishers have to do is stick their copyright lines at the bottom.

      "Not at all. The other major cost is the cost of reviewing papers. A major journal will receive ten times more papers than it can publish. Each one needs to be read and evaluated."

      This would be read and evaluated by peer reviewers. Whom you noticable do not pay. So, in fact, its the cost of paying for an editor, and a secretary to keep track of who is doing what.

      "Electronic typesetting is not cheap, not is something automatic just because its electronic. A human has to decide where articles go, how figures are positions etc. "

      Generally speaking, the authors. What you say is true for a few journals but I doubt that it is true for most.

      Journal publishers are on a pork barrel. They make something like 5bn dollars a year just in the US. And they prevent the scientists from doing their job. I can not access full text of the past publications. I'm even in the absurd position that I am breaking copyright by publishing my own work, on my own web site.

      I firmly hope that the days of the current business model of scientific publishers is over. Open access is not only desirable, its vital.

      Phil

    3. Re:It's about time. But why the huge author costs? by hanssprudel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be honest, this makes you sound like some high school/college kid who has never published an article, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and ask you what field you work in.

      No, you are the one who comes across as extremely ignorant. I can't speak for the original author, but, as has been stated several times in this thread, authors preparing camera ready articles in LaTeX is standard in the more mathematical sciences. This includes math, physics, computer science, statistics, etc.

      Trust me, scientists cannot format a paper for publishing, don't want to, and shouldn't be required to. Preparing a paper for print requires professionals that have training and experience at their jobs. Someday you should take a look at a pile of grant applications, which tend to represent the best writing most scientists can do. You're lucky to avoid serious grammatical errors, and are unlikely to see even correct indenting, much less some beautiful multi-page layout with embedded figures, multicolumn text flow, pretty typesetting, etc. It already takes months to write a paper, and now you want people with no training or interest to learn how to become publishers? Ridiculous.

      I am at the mathematical institution of a major university right now. There are over a hundred researchers in this building alone - and I promise you that to the last one they are all capable of preparing their own papers for publication in LaTeX. Even turning in a masters thesis done some other way is frowned upon greatly.

      Also, since the papers are reformatted (both text and graphics) for publishing, the publishers don't even want the authors to try to format their papers, because it will look like crap, and it just makes more work for them. Normally you submit your article text in a fairly non-structured form, and submit your graphics and charts separately in a different format.

      I don't understand how you can claim to work in academic publishing and you don't even seem to know what LaTeX is. In LaTeX, you define the structure of the document, and all the typesetting is done for automatically. I have the aesthetic sense of a warthog, and I can produce "correct indenting, beautiful multi-page layout with embedded figures, multicolumn text flow, pretty typesetting, etc" because it is just a simple matter of applying a document class to the my .tex file.

      See my response to your first assertion. You are incorrect. Scientists are not publishers, and lack the training and interest. Also, how is the author supposed to know how his or her article fits into the journal? Do you just assume that every article starts with a full page, and waste a lot of space? There are so many problems with this idea it's not even worth contemplating.

      Authors do not do the typesetting. They produce an article structure, set up by defining sections, subsections, figures, etc, and then a simple FREE program does it all for them. You seem to be in denial because your job depends entirely on the luditry of members of the non-technical sciences...

  4. No worse than what currently happens by VeryProfessional · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The idea of paying for publication in journals is ethically questionable. But then, so is accepting money in return for advertising. And, in computer science at least, most publications first appear in peer-reviewed conferences in which attendance at the conference (generally very expensive) is a condition of publication. Which basically amounts to paying to have your work published.

    The basic problem is, of course, that mixing money with the lofty ideals of purely merit-based peer-reviewed scientific publication will always lead to adulteration of the principle. Money is, after all, rarely given away without some sort of agenda (legitimate or otherwise).

    But, until a better solution is implemented (I'm not holding my breath) I don't see paying to get your work published as being any more pernicious that the other models currently in place. Ultimately, the scientific community will judge these journals by the quality of the work they publish. Given this, it is in their interests to keep the quality high. Nobody wants to be published in some two-bit, poorly regarded journal.

  5. Credibility by katana · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's dumb to focus on the ethics when there is a more basic issue at stake. Writers who publish with vanity presses, for the most part, do not command the same respect and credibility as authors who publish with established journals and presses, unless the authors *already* have credibility.

    The vanity-press (pay-to-publish) approach will simultaneously make journals *and* authors less credible. At the same time, it provides a way to silence new voices by providing an additional barrier to scientific publishing for graduate students and junior faculty.

  6. Excellent for Wikipedia by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the problems that Wikipedia has is accessing information. To write a thorough entry, quite a bit of research must be done. If you don't go to a University that has paid for access, it's often impossible to research a particular field. With open journals, this would assist in writing thoroughly researched articles.

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    XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
  7. Paying 1.500$ to publish?! by kkumer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At PLOS Medicine and PLOS Biology, for example, authors pay $1,500 each [...]

    Paying such money to publish your research? This is just outrageous. Why don't these people just set up online preprint archive, free of charge, available to anyone, like high-energy physicists did in the early '90. Now, 15 years later, this archive is practicaly the only "journal" that active high-energy physicists read. You should use taxpayers money for research and not for paying rediculous sums to some publishers, who will then disseminate your results far worse than a free web service.
  8. IEEE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Often I think it would be nice for IEEE to grant free access to their archives. So many times I need to refer to a paper but have to wait until one of my Universities 15 seats opens up.

  9. our tax dollars pay for the research by sfcat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So it should be available for free/cheap. The money is there for quality assurance. Given the poor quality of many papers (including randomly generated ones), it is necessary to peer review papers. But other profs should be doing this in exchange for reviews of their own papers. So there is a tradeoff between quality of peer reviews and cost (just like most goods). But the work in the journels is generally paid for by public funds so it seems wrong to have to pay for these papers. In addition, there isn't much incentive to peer review papers because of the publish or perish rule of academia. Maybe there should be some kind of requirement that you must review three papers for each one you submit (so each paper is reviewed by three people). But I have a problem paying for something my tax dollar already paid for.

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    "Those that start by burning books, will end by burning men."
  10. This is a very important development by NimNar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Currently the vast majority of academic journals are controlled by a cartel of a few publishers, which thrive by charging very high prices to research libraries (thousands of dollars a year for subscriptions to a few hundred journal pages)--for example, Kluwer alone controls hundreds of journals. These same publishers enjoy the cooperation of the best scientists who edit and peer-review the journals without any compensation for their many hours of work.

    Preeminent scientific journals are essentially brand names (think "Nike" or "Adidas") and other than marketing cache offer nothing to the scientific community.

    The situation is unbearable especially in poorer countries where research libraries cannot afford the subscription prices to the best journals. My university is now in the process of difficult subscription cuts due to a lack of library budget.

    All that is need for "open access" journals is the cooperation of the leaders of the scientific community for the benefit of all.

    The inevitable replacement of current journals by "open-access" journals is the legacy of open source in general. It's very interesting to see the influence of open-source ideas in areas outside of software development.

  11. Authors paying to publish is common by astrophysics · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In many fields (Astronomy, Physics, Math) it is standard practice for authors to pay page charges (often about $100 per page) to publish their articles. (Of course, in these fields most journals don't have any advertisements.) I see nothing unethical about it.

    The obvious question is why should an author pay to print the article when they can post a pdf on their website or an online archive (such as arxiv.org). The answer is that scientists are judged (i.e., hired, tenured, promoted, etc.) based on their refereed publications. Posting the same things on your website will get you only a small fraction of the "credit". There are some exceptions (e.g., if you make a particularly important discovery), but from the scientist's point of view, why risk it? It's much safer to pay the ~$1000 page charges.

    Personally, I wish that departments would recognize how much money could be saved if they were to stop using refereed publications as the primary criteria for judging their members.

  12. A step in the right direction, but.. by SimianOverlord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I applaud the ideas behind setting up these journals, but until scientists really want to be published in them, when their impact factor increases, they won't be successful or well respected within the scientific community. For now, they're going to struggle against the perception that they are a poor quality sort of plan b that you turn to when your paper isn't accepted by more prestigious journals. (Impact factor is a complicated mathematical measurement used by science employers to measure how well their emplyees are doing. It works a bit like Googles page rank the overall score depends on how many other people cite your work in the references at the end of theirs. Obviously, the greater the visibility of the journal, the more people read and the more likely they are to cite it.) Ironically, if journals like PloS are to be a success they really need other scientists reading them, rather than the public.

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  13. CS journals are not easily free by maxjenius22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with other fields' journals, like CS, is that the algorithms introduced often don't have free implementations of their experiments and data. So, even if the article is free as in speech, the "science" isn't.

    1. Re:CS journals are not easily free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      All the work done is described in the paper, including the proof of correctness/termination of the algorithm/etc. If you want to use it, fine - but don't whine that the science isn't free because you don't have access to their particular implementation.

  14. Wikipedia still needs a citation mechanism by jesterzog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To write a thorough entry, quite a bit of research must be done.

    One of the important things about research, though, is that you really need to cite where you get information from. (Proper research, anyway.)

    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I checked I don't believe that Wikipedia had any formal way to cite sources -- at least not one that anyone's seriously using if it's there. There are plenty of indirect and informal methods, such as the External Links sections that might sometimes indirectly imply that information was gathered from them, but this isn't proper or reliable citing.

    I do use Wikipedia a lot and I've written several articles for it, but this is one thing I still think it seriously needs. Once it has a mechanism like this and it's straightforward to use, I'll feel much better about it.

  15. Re:Best journal charge; weak journals dont by ghoti · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well you're wrong, I am a scientist, and I also publish. It's just that in my area (visualization), there aren't any non-commercial journals, only journals which will ask your for page fees that are not compulsory.

    But the situation is different in physics, I guess. And you're right about paying after being accepted, of course, but it still feels strange. But that needs some getting used to, I guess.

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  16. Speaking as a Publisher ....Other side. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "I work for one of the largest scientific publishers, yup we have over 1000 academic journals, and as ever the story is not as simple as it might seem at first."

    You must be new here? :)

    "What is it that we can offer?"

    Funny how "Division of labour" let alone "Economics of scale", as they relate to the concept "society" escapes most people around here.

    You'd think we have all the time in the world, to be all things, and still bring home the bacon.

    Thanks for the insight thought (for however long it lasts).

  17. Many Traditional Journals already require payment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The traditional academic journals aren't happy, saying that it's unethical to accept money for publishing.

    Many of the traditional specialist journals already charge authors for publishing papers in their journals. The big two - Nature and Science - don't do that but the more specialised journals like those for biochemistry do. So there's no difference here and their objections to payment to publish in the free journals are not valid

  18. Re:Not the advertising, but the cost of informatio by October_30th · · Score: 2, Insightful
    When I do my reading, I do not care at all in which journal the article appeared

    Are you kidding?

    At least in physics it is quite evident that some journals publish articles with much more impact, longevity and generality than some others. The history of the group/institution and the journal where the article is published are indeed indications of quality of the work. Is it fair? Maybe not, but life in general isn't fair.

    Personally, I would not cite an article that has been published in an open access journal until they gain more respectability and history (primarily so that I can better judge how stringent their peer-review process is). Yep, it's a catch-22 situation for such journals, but then again it's not really authors' problem. You can always safely publish in the more traditional media.

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  19. Maybe CS publishing is more webcentric by steve_l · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe it really varies by subject; Biology is a wierd one because there is so much money there.

    CS, by its very nature, is so computer centric, and often there are the accompanying code, screenshots, demo programs and videos: the web is the natural way to distribute this stuff.

    Even in CS, the ACM is not free to read, it is relatively low cost compared to the 'retail' publishers, who are still up to their old practises.

    I am fortunate I recently had a paper turned down by one of the latter, because their journal rules explicitly stated "not to be published online". I have got it into an IEEE conference instead, and we will be hosting it for everyone to see.

    And that, when you think about it, is what matters. The more people read your work, the more they may learn from it (or, for people playing academic politics, the more they may cite it).

  20. as someone who does literature research by perrin5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ALL THE FREAKING TIME, I would like to say that this is a very useful tool, but hardly more than a new business model.

    No researcher I know goes about their searches by saying "which journal has free access"? Instead, we search web of science, or pubmed, and then try to gain access to the articles one by one. There are so many journals out there, that even with the clearinghouses mentioned below (elsever, etc), there are a multitude of smaller journals that my library cannot afford to allow me electronic access to.

    I would LOVE for this not to be the case. But I don't see how it can without putting the companies out of business, or making this a backdoor government funded access (note that the majority of publishing costs are paid from grants, which are usually granted by a federal agency), not that this is much different from my library paying for access to them, except with the library system, more people get access, most likely for more money.

    Not much to say here, just pointing out that it's never simple.

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  21. For profit vs. professional societies by dr.+loser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe you can answer this:

    Why the cost disparity between for-profit publishers and professional society journals? I don't mean the page charges so much as the subscription costs. For example, the APS, AIP, and ACS are nonprofit, have author page charges that aren't too bad, and charge some not crazy amount to universities for subscriptions that include online access to archived content. Elsevier has higher page charges and extortionate subscription charges to universities and libraries.

    Given that publishers like Elsevier provide similar services, and if anything should have bigger economies of scale because they publish more journals, I am forced to conclude that Elsevier's higher prices are a result of trying to maximize profits. This is fine from the perspective of capitalism, but given the choice of supporting nonprofit professional societies vs. lining the pockets of Elsevier's shareholders, I know which way I want to go.