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America's Not So Up to Speed

indiejade writes "According to The Broadband Life, the U.S. has quite a way to go before catching up to countries such as South Korea, Japan and even Canada when it comes to percentage of the population enjoying high-speed internet access. 'In 2000, the U.S. ranked third in Net users connecting at high-speed among the top-30 world economies. The next year it fell to fourth. Now it's 11th,' the article said." Commentary on this is also available at Foreign Affairs and The New York Times.

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  1. Re:Country size matters by Jabolio · · Score: 5, Informative

    While much of Canada's population does lie within 100 miles of the US border, that says nothing about why Canada's broadband infrastructure has been ahead of the States in recent years.

    Where I'm from (Halifax, Nova Scotia), we've had residential broadband access in some form or another since as far back as 1995 or 1996. Much of rural Nova Scotia and PEI have broadband access. The greatest thing about it all is that the prices are relatively reasonable, around $40CAN per month, with varying degrees of speed/accessibility

    On the other hand, there isn't a whole lot of "wasteland" to fill between towns, meaning that setting up so many additional connections will always yield a decent increase in subscriber base.

    This kind of article shows up every now and then, doesn't it? Oh well. It's not Canada's fault that there's just SO MUCH MORE UNITED STATES to cover.

  2. Re:Country size matters by MarkRose · · Score: 5, Informative

    the majority of Canadia's population is settled within 100 miles or so of the US border

    Every time the topic of poor broadband availability in the US comes up, this fallacy is repeated. Yes, the majority of the Canadian population is near the US border, but broadband penetration goes much further. I live roughly 500 miles north of the US border, and a 5 hour drive from the nearest city of over 50,000 people -- yet I have my choice of broadband internet providers -- and at competitive prices. For $20/month Canadian (about $15 US), I get 170 KB down and 60 KB up (bytes not bits). The whole argument is bullocks.

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  3. Re:Ok, So They Do One Thing Better by Nimrangul · · Score: 5, Informative

    Uh, Japan and Canada consistantly both have a higher standard of living than the United States of America: Read all about it.

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  4. Re:Country size matters by Cplus · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's actually the great distances that are between major Canadian cities that causes Canada to be a leader in communications globally. One of the major things that we've had to do as a country is to enable communication and cultural solidarity across sparsely populated areas. Innovation in the communication sector is something that has always been an important issue to Canadians, and to the Canadian Government. The mandate of Industry Canada is to help make Canadians more productive and competitive in the knowledge-based economy. Broadband being cheap and everywhere is a bit part of that, and has been for a decade.

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  5. Re:"... and even Canada"? by Cplus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Aye, but the government in Canada paid for the backbone to be put across the country. Different from the states where such things are done by corporate interests. A consortium of business, educational, and governmental interests worked on the project which brought about the world's first national optical Internet research and education network. This has blossomed into CA*net4, which is our current backbone.

    Government interest in broadening communications abilities in Canada has always been viewed as culturally and economically important. A country laid out as we are couldn't possibly survive or thrive without such an interest. Canada paid a lot of attention to the establishment of the national telephone network, a great deal of funding is pumped into the cbc to guarantee that every community has access to it, and now .

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  6. Bureaucracy, pure and simple by N5 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's that simple. The cheapest I can get DSL in my area is roughly $45, and that's slow stuff that I wouldn't even want to try to game on. Cable is no better costing $50+ through comca$t, whom I don't trust. In many areas the choice is limited, so they charge like crazy.

    What makes me the angriest is that our wonderful Pennsylvania state house voted against townships operating wireless networks. The telecoms even tried to get public support for it, bundling it with bills that would give stuff to schools, then having the audacity to make commercials urging them to call their representives to support it. They also gave verizon 6 billion to bring high speed more places. Verizon being true to their ma' bell heritage promply took the money and did nothing. So it's no wonder that Pa is 50th on the list (last time I saw it) for broadband. Our elected state leaders are so bad, they jam their voting buttons (no roll call) so they can take the day off and still get their wage, plus food and transportation costs.

    Pennsylvania: First to vote with electric buttons (supposedly) yet still hasn't made it to the 21st century.

    good grief

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  7. The facts & figures by rbrander · · Score: 5, Informative

    This story seems to be nearly a dupe of yesterays. So I'll dupe the facts I looked up for that one:

    Canada, the US, and Korea are all about equally urbanized.

    US, 2000 census: 79.2% urban population
    Canada 2001: 79.6% (statistics canada)
    Korea, 2000: 77% urban

    Even better, the McKinsey quarterly uses telco stats to compute the "reach" of broadband, that is to say, the percentage of total households that can be equipped with broadband if they choose to pay for it:

    Korea: 95%
    US: 89%
    Canada: 87%

    The houses that actually purchase broadband:

    Korea: 54%
    US: 13%
    Canada: 25%

    In short, it isn't for lack of ability to provide the broadband. It's the price offered to the consumer. It's cheaper in Canada and much cheaper in Korea.

    NB: Disposable income is lower in Canada and much lower in Korea. But the prices for broadband are that much lower again.

    http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/census/cps2k.ht m

    http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/82-221-XIE / 2004002/tables/pdf/44_01.pdf

    www.paulnoll.com/Korea/History/South-Korean-pop- d ist.html

    http://www.dalfarra.ch/nds/zusatzdokumente/2003_ 2_ sense_of_broadband.pdf

  8. Re:Country size matters by Dark+Nexus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah. If I recall correctly, Saskatchewan is (or at least used to be) the province with the highest percentage of the population with high-speed, and is one of the provinces with the lowest population density. I mean, the population of Toronto is several times that of the entirety of Saskatchewan.

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  9. Re:Country size matters by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 3, Informative

    You say that you're 5 hours away from a city with over 50,000 people in it. OK, how many towns of 5000 people are within 2.5 hours of you?

    I'm not the person you were replying to but I know many small towns (Villages if you want to call them) that are wired. I can name 15 small towns with populations under 1000 that have broadband access up north (sitting hundreds of kilometers outside of the 401 corridor.)

  10. Re:Country size matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The US has 80.3 percent urban population

    Canada has 79.6 percent urban

    People clump around cities, it's an industrialized nation thing.

    As another note, here in Canada almost everyone has cable or satalite TV. We don't have the population density to get more then a couple of channels.

    US stats - see p32

    Canadian stats