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Finnish Firm Claims Fake P2P Hash Technology

An anonymous reader writes "As reported by The Inquirer, a Finnish company known as Viralg Oy claim to have developed software that can create a junk file with the same hash as a genuine p2p download. This, according to the company, can altogether stop the sharing of copywritten files by flooding p2p networks with corrupt/junk data, which then spreads through the network, causing less and less of the original file to be available. However, with the resolve of the p2p userbase, is this software really going to 'beat all Peer 2 Peer pirates at their own game,' or simply prove a minor annoyance?"

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  1. Bite My Shiny Metal Ass by B3ryllium · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bah! Screw you guys. I'll just make my own P2P hash algorithm. With blackjack. And hookers. In fact, forget the P2p hash algorithm. And the blackjack.

  2. Re:Just an annoyance by bherman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Except /. dupes!

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  3. Re:Just an annoyance by Psiolent · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, yes. That ancient principle pontificated by Dr. Ian Malcolm: Life will find a way.

  4. Re:Preview/Trailer by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not downloading copyrighted music, I'm downloading junk to burden the p2p network with useless traffic. It just so happens I go a real file in the process!

  5. If they crack the hash by miracle69 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm switching to hashish.

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  6. Bad news for the music industry by nizo · · Score: 5, Funny

    What will they do when people like the files with random noise better than any of the current music?

  7. There is one way.... by Col.+Blackwolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can always ensure an identical hash and size by filling the file with identical data and then uploading the new file to the P2P network. Imagine how quick filesharing would stop if all of the major industry groups started doing this. P2P wouldn't stand a chance, no siree.

  8. Re:They have cracked strong hashes, huh? by garbletext · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah! easily! i'm working on a free program that turns a 1KB hash into a 4 GB DVD ISO, or anything else you want! it turns out we don't need to share files, just write the hash down on a piece of paper and you can transmit ANY size file with almost NO bandwidth! and if you hash the hash, it gets smaller and smaller until it's just a zero or a one!

    I'll make millions!

  9. Re:They have cracked strong hashes, huh? by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Either way, I give it about a 0 chance they figured out how to quickly find collisions in a strong hash space. If they had, they'd be talking to the NSA, not the RIAA.

    What makes you so sure that NSA pays better?

  10. Re:They have cracked strong hashes, huh? by Feyr · · Score: 4, Funny

    they pay in life

    "hand this over, or we'll make sure you never see the sun ever again"

  11. Re:They have cracked strong hashes, huh? by Local+ID10T · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you ever tried turning down a request from the NSA? Talk about an offer you cant refuse...

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  12. Re:Just an annoyance by Dutchmaan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't you mean..

    "Life... uhhhh.. will..uhh... find a way!"

  13. Why this won't affect Slashdot. by stlhawkeye · · Score: 4, Funny
    As anybody who reads Slashdot knows, perfectly legal and legitimate downloading comprises the majority of internet downloading, and actually bolsters profits to member organizations of such content ownership cartels as the RIAA.

    "This, according to the company, can altogether stop the sharing of copywritten files by flooding p2p networks with corrupt/junk data"

    Slashdot should rejoice at this! Since none of us download illegal material and nobody that any of us knows downloads illegal material, this technology might allow us to continue our legal, legitimate downloading of media and only target those handful of ruffians who engage in illegal filesharing. I'm all in favor of this!

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  14. Missing the Point by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 4, Funny

    Y'all are missing the point.
    These guys are not about taking out P2P.
    They are part of a denial of service attack against the RIAA and MPAA, and we need more companies like them in order to make it effective.

    You see, it works like this:

    1) Make up a really snazzing sound anti-piracy product,
    2) Back it with lots of sexy buzzwords and hand-waving
    3) Sell, sorry LICENSE, it for lots of money to the (RI|MP)AA.
    4) When it fails to perform, let in the next guy ready to do the same.

    Repeat until (RI|MP)AA bank accounts have been depleted.

  15. Re:They have cracked strong hashes, huh? by tryone · · Score: 5, Funny

    "hand this over, or we'll make sure you never see the sun ever again"

    Oh noes! The NSA are going to destroy the sun!

  16. Re:Agreed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    What is neat, or not so neat depending on your point of view, are music files which deteriorate after a while. I don't know how they are made, but I have listened to music that sounds pretty good, but after the 10th playing it starts skipping.

    The files are perfectly normal -- you're simply realizing that most of the music out there is trash which simply repeats the same verses over and over again so much that it sounds like it's skipping. Add to that the endless remixes which ruin perfectly good songs, and I can see how you'd mistake that with repetitive skipping. Rest assured that a better choice in music will alleviate this problem.

  17. Re:Just an annoyance by ePhil_One · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its a perfectly cromulent word...

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