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Next Generation X11
Rene Rebe writes "The German News site Golem is running a report (babelfish translation) about the next generation X11 projects, like the OpenGL X-Server Xgl, Luminocity as well as Enlightenment 17. The report is including many screenshots and five videos."
1. Seth Nickell has posted a few videos showing the Luminocity window manager doing some super Open GL hardware acceleration tricks.
2. Interview: Rasterman Speaks of Enlightenment .17
3. XGL file format specs
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Yeah wasn't there a Y windows in the works at one point.
You mean this?
Fresco was the other big contender.
The Linux Kernel is so flexable in how you can customize it for the hardware situation, its a shame you can't do the same thing for X.
Modern X actually does let you plug-in, plug-out all kinds of useless^H useful crap. It has actually matured into a fairly decent system, network transparency or no.
Where this article falls flat is on trying to make us believe that any of what we're seeing is "new". We've seen it all before, just with fewer cheap effects (e.g. the "wobbly windows").
Javascript + Nintendo DSi = DSiCade
Plugged in how?
This is something I spent a *long* time explaining to some people on a forum about a related subject. Network transparency doesn't involve significant overhead, dammit!
There has to be some way for an application to talk to X. So, you remove the network protocol, how do you want to talk it to X then, magic? In order for two different programs to talk to each other there has to be some kind of protocol, no way around it.
Now, networking indeed can slow things down a little due to things like latency. But that's effectively inexistent if you're talking on the local host. And X already has shared memory communication as well. On Linux there are also the so called Unix Sockets, which is pretty much like TCP/IP, only with even less overhead since it's done locally, so it can be implemented in a simpler way.
However, as far as an application is concerned, an Unix socket and a TCP/IP one are exactly the same thing, so it makes no sense to get rid of network transparency - you wouldn't win anything with that anyway.
Don't go there expecting anything you'll be able to use in the near future. I fully expect HURD 1.0 to be released before we're done.
/. is a stream of fools bitching at Mark/Andrew/me for not working hard enough on Y. I work on it in _my_ time, and people telling me what I ought to be doing usually causes me to go do something else entirely.
Please don't join the mailing list and ask "is anyone still working on this?" or "when will feature x be included?", because I'm tired of telling people to fuck off. We're working on it, we'll work on the features _we_ want in the order we feel like doing them. If you want something done you can do it yourself or pay someone else to do it for you.
Apologies for the rant: the usual followup to that link being posted on
Phil
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Oh brother.
...to be used in Linux...
...and its special feature is ability to use opengl rendered screens in place of bitmaps for window drawing...
There is a language being developed codenamed cairo..
No. Cairo is a 2D vector graphics library, not a language.
or Windows. or Mac. It is a cross platform library.
its a GTK fork...
No. It is not. The CVS head version of GTK uses cairo for drawing.
Among its features are multiple drawing back-ends. One is OpenGL, another is Render. Because it is a vector library, it may or may not render to bitmaps - depending on the backend.
A product is already being developed using this called luminocity.
Luminocity is a fork of the metacity window manager that has a built in composite manager that renders to OpenGL.
Now that that's been cleared up...
Schrodinger's cat is either dead or really pissed off...