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Reports from the MySQL Users Conference

Posted by Zonk on from the dolphin-party dept.

Eh-Wire writes "OnLamp is reporting on the MySQL Users Conference that is currently underway. Among the highlights are the announcement that the code for MySQL 5.0 is now complete. Axmark and Widenius suggest that squashing bugs is the key behind the success of MySQL. Michael Tiemann from Red Hat and the OSI delivered a keynote on "Defining Open Source". He suggests that Microsoft's "shared source license" has been a complete failure at the design level."

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  1. From the Article by DarkHelmet · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "MySQL 5.0 is code complete"

    So does this mean they're still doing bugfixes? Or they're doing testing? Or it's going to come out any moment?

    Or does it mean that they're no longer implementing new features, which means they're in beta. If that's the case, we knew that much already.

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  2. Mysql needs to Improve by RedElf · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It still has a long way to go, over the last weekend I spent several hours trying to recover data from a backup (mysqldump) because of dataloss due to mysql database corruption on server version 4.0.20.

    Sure it seems ok if you want to run a small, fast, dynamic website that doesn't contain any real valueable data.

    For serious data needs, in my projects I'll choose Sql-Server over mysql any day of every week. I'm not saying Sql-server is the best choice, but its ahead of mysql when it comes to data integrity.

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    1. Re:Mysql needs to Improve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      tried postgresql?

    2. Re:Mysql needs to Improve by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While people mark that as Funny. Most people/companies/mission-critical-places still choose Oracle over MS SQL and MySQL. I really would like to see MySQL 5.0 compete and actually topple oracle in the market place.

  3. People give MySQL too much crap... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Really, it sort of annoys me. We use MySQL in a live, production environment. We have tables with close to five billion rows in them. MySQL has only given us a problem once. A table was mysteriously corrupted about two years ago. The fix? I opened up a HEX editor and repaired the damage. Restarted MySQL, ran some checks with the included tools, and we were all done. Quicker than pulling tapes, let me tell you.

    I am really tired of all the hate around here. Every other comment is "If you're serious you will use Postgres because it has feature x, y, and z which make it a better product and you will suffer the consequences if you use MySQL because it's a bad thing for bad people because they don't like penguins and hot grits and bacon shit!"

    Actually, it's not that bad... but it's damn near.

    1. Re:People give MySQL too much crap... by prog99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You think hacking a table with a hex editor is good?

      Think I'll stick with known good backups , glad I'm not working with your prod environment.

    2. Re:People give MySQL too much crap... by vadim_t · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, it might just be me, but I definitely don't look forward to hex editing databases when the thing goes down and the whole company grinds to a halt.

      Now, I will readily say that mySQL has its uses. If you're simply aiming to logging data it works well. IIRC, that's what it was designed for in the beginning.

      But it's still quite far from being a good database. Doing crap like silently ignoring things it doesn't like is one of the things that makes sure I'll never use it for anything important.

    3. Re:People give MySQL too much crap... by jesterzog · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Most of the problems pointed out should never hit the database engine and if they do, you get what you deserve.

      Of course they shouldn't hit the database engine. When they do, however, I'd like to know about it rather than have the database engine silently determine the semantics of something that's supposed to be undefined.

      It sounds as if MySQL 5 has dealt with a large amount of this criticism, now, which is good.

    4. Re:People give MySQL too much crap... by alyandon · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Most of the problems pointed out should never hit the database engine and if they do, you get what you deserve.

      That is the typical "It's always the application's fault instead of MySql's fault for not properly enforcing rules to guarantee consistency of data" response I've come to expect from the hoardes of MySql apologists.