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MPAA Under Investigation for Illegal NYPD Payoffs

An anonymous reader writes "The New York Post is reporting that two NYPD officers are being investigated for taking illegal payoffs from the MPAA for busting sellers of pirated DVDs. According to the article, MPAA investigators would tell the cops where pirated movies were being sold, which is perfectly legal, but, after the bust, they'd give them several hundred dollars in gratuities, which is illegal. Naturally, the MPAA denies all of this."

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  1. What's worse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know who's worse: people paying cops to enforce the law, or cops that won't enforce it unless you pay them extra.

    1. Re:What's worse? by vadim_t · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not every crime is equally important.

      I think I can see the logic of this - most cops probably don't give a damn about who's selling DVDs, especially since the people who do it (at least here) are usually immigrants (sometimes illegal) who have a very poor knowledge of the language and can't get a job.

      Doesn't seem to be much point to me in arresting some guy who managed to get some income that way, when there are much more harmful people out there. I think most cops would be pretty happy with that at least they're not selling drugs or mugging people.

  2. Re:Umm. by Omniscientist · · Score: 4, Insightful
    No. Law enforcement is a public service. What they do is to be expected, not rewarded. Tipping will lead to favoritism which must be avoided.

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  3. Re:Umm. by ForestGrump · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So where do you draw the line between tipping an officer for doing you a "favor" and bribing him to do you a "favor"?

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  4. Re:Umm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Then you get a situation where whoever pays the cops the most gets the most justice.

    We already have a problem with police going after more high profile crimes involving a lot of money, rather than going after less high profile crimes which involve less money but more harm to the individual.

    For example, if a little old lady is scammed out of $10,000 by a guy who says he will fix her leaking roof, that causes her a lot of harm.

    In contrast, if someone distributes music online and costs the music industry $100,000, which is highly unlikely, the police will go after those guys with more vigor, even though the music industry won't feel the sting of that guy's actions much if at all.

  5. Re: you missed the "why" by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There are two ways to improve the bottom line for a firm:
    Increase Sales
    Reduce Cost

    The MPAA considers piracy to be a "cost" that they wish to control, to assist their bottom line.

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  6. Re:They may be bad, but.... by Tassach · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "Cartel" or "Trust" is a more accurate description of the MPAA and RIAA.

    There's a reason there's a law called the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.

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  7. Re:Umm. by Triskele · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm a Brit and we generally don't tip. It used to be considered insulting in many sectors - "I work for a living I don't need charity" or "Am I a serf?". In fact I will tip if service and the meal is particularly good.

    Though when I'm in the US I do try to remember that the waiters really are serfs and if I don't tip they'll starve. What a lovely system you guys have...

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  8. Wrong by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "well, they are fully responsible for the piracy themselves!"

    No they're not. Candy costs about 55 cents a bar now, when it used to be about 33 cents when I was a kid. Does this mean if I were to shoplift a candy bar, it's the store's fault? Or the candy manufacturer?

    While I'm certainly not defending the MPAA's actions or saying that things are hunky dory, their shitty actions are not a reasonable justification to steal.

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    1. Re:Wrong by Chuq · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I'm certainly not defending the MPAA's actions or saying that things are hunky dory, their shitty actions are not a reasonable justification to steal.

      I didn't realise DVDs being taken off store shelves was such a huge problem in the US.

      (Hint: If you meant "copyright infringement", say it. Don't say "steal", as that means something else.)

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    2. Re:Wrong by JayBlalock · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Just to take the contrary position: Say you were to put your money into a bank, and it turned out the bank's preferred method of security is to leave the money in piles out on the floor. Obviously, it gets stolen. While in the strictest sense, it's a case of one person committing one crime, only a fool would say the bank was not partially at fault, since their policies made the theft so attractive.

      An extreme case to be sure, but I wanted to illustrate the point. A business has to take reasonable safeguards for their product *AND* make sure they have a viable business model. When the entire world is clamoring for lower prices on music\movies, with the customers being fully aware that these products can be obtained far more cheaply (or for free), then the media conglomerates are inviting piracy by refusing to respond to the market.

      And that's what it all boils down to. The world is moving towards digital distribution, and the media companies are doing everything in their power to try to stop that from happening. They are refusing to update their business model for a new generation. This SHOULD be death for a company. Instead, they have grown so large that they simply attempt to outlaw the new technology that threatens their 1950s mentality.

      Now, personally I think pirates who *profit* off their wares are scum that deserve to be locked up. BUT, that does not mean that the media companies are in any way blameless. The world is changing; they refuse to - and this is the result.

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    3. Re:Wrong by scsirob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Assuming there's about 20 years difference between 'now' and 'when you were a kid', then today's 50 cents is less money than the 33 cents back then. It's called inflation.

      If today's bar was raised to $14.99, then I would indeed call it the store's fault for trying to make unfair amounts of profit. Which just happens to be what the MPAA does...

      The MPAA has to step into reality by understanding that their super-profitable distribution system (CD, DVD) no longer fits today's reality. They should try to adjust instead of fighting the inevitable.

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  9. Re:pirated movies/games.... by macdaddy357 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah! And when the cops let murderers, armed robbers and rapists run amok beacause busting simple copyright infringers pays a kickback, that's cool too. After all, you get free bandwidth! ;b

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  10. Re:I think DVD prices are not too high... by digidave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah well thost Babylon 5 sets cost just pennies to manufacture. The shows were already produced, so no production costs went into making them for the DVD. A few special features cost very little: a cameraman might cost $20/hour and the interviewees are probably not paid at all, or maybe a couple hundred bucks. There is more profit to be made on TV show sets because production costs are nearly zero and costs are still high.

    So, tell me again why DVDs cost as much as they do? Ah yes, what the market will bare. Looks like a significant portion of the market has decided that prices are too high.

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  11. Re:This wouldn't surprise me.. by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Arbitrary arrest and imprisonment goes against the constitution, so far as I'm aware. I believe that there's something in the constitution about a right of "the people" to "peaceably assemble" and about "freedom of speech".

    Now, I've been on mass protests. Except I was fortunate to do so in a free country, Britain. I marched with several hundred thousand people about a topic I must admit I've changed my mind on since in the early nineties. And been with several thousand people protesting on another issue at roughly the same period.

    Unlike America, I wasn't arrested or under threat of arrest and the authorities cooperated with the protest and its organizers. In Britain, the right to protest is not considered something to be stamped upon. Riots are rare because the tactics designed to provoke them are rarely if ever used by British law enforcement. You don't, for example, as is common in the US, herd protesters into a closed area, surround them, and then order them to disperse or be arrested.

    In most free countries, the right to protest isn't dismissed as easily as you do:

    So the police make a bunch of arrests among large crowds of people then drop the charges later.

    I really don't have a problem with that. It is a widely practiced tactic in highly charged crowds. If the DNC had been held in Austin Texas the same thing would have happened.

    We don't consider extreme limitations on the right to protest compatable with freedom. Indeed, the day law enforcement appears to be deliberately doing what it can to stir up trouble, the day it clearly starts making arbitrary arrests, et al, is probably the day the government doing this work finds itself likely to be thrown out. We don't do that kind of thing. We don't tolerate it. And we find it bizarre the country whose countrymen usually pride themselves on the degree of Freedom they have consider their right to start a business and then fire employees for what they do in their spare time as more important than the right to protest.

    Not that I'm saying all Americans are like you. I know plenty that aren't, right and left. But I'm surprised that, generally, you don't get the kind of backlash against Fidel Castro clones in local government in the US as you do in other western democracies. Maybe, because you, as citizens against a government, haven't had to fight for basic democratic freedoms for the last 250 years, many of you have forgotten how important they are.

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  12. Re:Money making by laird · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Surely the can't expect that their raids of arrests will provide them with more sales."

    If I understand your claim, I think you're wrong.

    Yes, I think that they do in fact think that when people buy bootleg copies of DVD's that they don't buy legit copies of the DVD's, so shutting down illegal manufacturers (i.e. factories that manufacture DVD's that they don't pay royalties on, and street vendors who burn DVD-R's and don't pay royalties) they reduce the supply of bootlegs and thus increase sales of legit DVD's.

    Is there something there that you disagree with?

  13. Re:Criminal activity is normal for the RIAA by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The MPAA and RIAA are different the way the Mafia and the Yakuza are different.

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