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Enforcing Crytographically Strong Passwords

Saqib Ali writes "The WebAppSec mailing list at SecurityFocus is currently having an interesting discussion on how to force users to use cryptographically strong passwords. The original poster suggested displaying a list of randomly generated password for the user to choose from. Two issues pointed with this concept, were Shoulder surfing and the fact that a bunch of randomly generated passwords are hard to remember. A counter proposal was to use pronounceable but randomly generated password. A full summary of this discussion is available. Any thoughts from slashdotters?"

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  1. FP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Did I get it? Yes I did!

    1. Re:FP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Congratulations! You win dick.

    2. Re:FP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  2. Why bother? Crypto can be dangerous. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Recently I noticed that my teenage son Ezekiel had begun to encrypt
    his emails with a program called PGP. I was concerned because I'd
    always covertly monitored their email for any hints of illegal
    activity, drug use or interest in the occult - some of his classmates
    have begun playing Dungeons and Dragons and listening to KISS. Since
    Ezekiel was now using PGP, his activites were hidden from me!

    Additionally, I also overheard him talking of using a program called
    Stegasaurus to embed secret information into normal-looking pictures.
    Terrified that my son might be speaking in some sort of sinful code, I
    immediately grounded him for a month. He was only allowed to go to
    school and Bible study.

    Anyways, I've done several days worth of research on this and
    discovered a few things about PGP that I'd like to share with the
    readers of these newsgroups. To begin with, I realized that many of
    the claims made by the creators of PGP are blatently false. Although I
    do not have a background in mathematics (I have an AA in Photography)
    I was easily able to rebuild Ezekiel's private key via his public key
    and one of his encrypted messages.

    Of course I am above-average in intelligence, but PGP is supposedly
    unbreakable! Perhaps crytogrophers aren't as smart as they believe?
    Fortunately in this case Ezekiel was just discussing a girl he met in
    school - a situation I harshly reprimanded him for. However, while PGP
    may be a program with flaws, it got me thinking about other programs.
    Perhaps someone will construct a PGP-like program that cannot be so
    easily broken; one that would take days of computer time to hack!

    My concern with a program like this is that people who use
    cryptography always do so because they have something to hide. A sense
    of guilt and shame seems to drive them. They know that they are doing
    something wrong and desperately want to hide it from the eyes of the
    world (although hiding it from the eyes of God is another matter!
    LOL!)

    A study recently released by the Institute for Family Computing
    revealed that the top three uses of cryptography were for 1)
    "terrorist-related activity" 2) pedophillia and 3) drug abuse. In fact
    as far as I can tell, no legitimate use was on the top ten at all!

    What scares me about this is that law-enforcement agencies will be
    unable to sift through email to find people who are breaking the law,
    or otherwise engaged in suspicious activity. At a time when our nation
    is under siege, I find it disturbing that people are working on
    developing cryptography that cannot be broken, even by our protectors
    in the FBI and CIA! Only those with something to hide truly need
    cryptography.

    Thus I urge cryptogrophers world wide to refrain from working on such
    programs, until our nation is no longer at war. I would ask those of
    other countries to respect our right to self-defense and aid us in our
    time of trouble. Your cryptographic skills can be better put to use
    trying to find terrorists than to assist them.

  3. Re:Easier to remember random passwords by Infinityis · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Unless "fat" has four to six characters, I call BS on this story.

    Remember kids, funny doesn't add to your karma, especially when the joke has errors that weren't caught at compile time...

  4. Re:Easier to remember random passwords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Note the parent is modded "off topic". Now that's even funnier than the parent!