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China Locks in its Net-Citizenry

DatedNews writes "China's registry CNNIC teamed up in March with registar i-DNS.net to provide "Internet domains completely in Chinese characters" to the Greater Chinese Internet community. What at first might look like a localization issue could potentially become a powerfull user lock-in and turn out to be a very effective addition to The Great Chinese Filtering."

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  1. yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    "...a very effective addition to The Great Chinese Filtering."
    Did you mean the Great Firewall of China?
  2. tempest in a teapot by fliptout · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read tfa and saw nothing about locking in the chinese netizens.

    Look, English literacy is on the rise in China in a major way. With all the influx of foreign investments and foreigners into china, the chinese people are having more contact than ever with the western world. Filtering out everything but chinese characters, while a technical possibility, is simple improbable.

    I lived in china a few months last year, and I'm going back for the long haul soon- from what I have seen, the young, college educated Chinese like their access to information, albeit san porn, Taiwan, etc. To restrict their information flow even more would cause an outcry.

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  3. Re:Will this affect IPv9? by jerometremblay · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, because IP and DNS are not on the same network layer. IP is part of the Network Layer (3), while DNS is part of the Application Layer (7).

    A lower layer does not care about what's going on in an higher layer.

  4. Re:Quick! by blueZhift · · Score: 3, Informative

    Please forgive the poor transliteration!

    Porn Video: haam di (hah-mm dee)
    Horny: haam suup (hah-mm s-uh-p) literally salty and wet

    At least, those are the colloquial expressions I'm told.

  5. Re:Quick! by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is "se qing", with se being a word meaning "form", but also meaning "lust". Qing means "passion". not neccesarily in a sexual sense, but sometimes in that way. So together, se qing means "pornographic".

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  6. Wacky pro-English conservatives by alienmole · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's the only explanation I can think of for the spin on the Slashdot posting. I think it's a legitimate question to raise, but to present it with the headline "China Locks in its Net-Citizenry" is just ludicrous, and extremely inflammatory. Only on Slashdot, where the term "editor" has a unique definition. Timothy ought to be ashamed of himself.

  7. Just tried to register a domain... by L0stb0Y · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ok, speaking pretty good Chinese, and for an experiment I just went through the process of registering a domain with these guys-

    Interesting things about the process:

    When you are registering, they state that the Chinese government has 30 days to reject your domain...maybe to keep domains they don't like the sound of from going live...

    They force you to a min of 2 years, and the cost is $125.00 - when you register a domain, they give you the domain plus the domain.cn as well (they call it a 'free gift')-

    After you register a domain they tell you that you have to install their software for your browser (no Mozilla, only IE)- With the plugin installed your new domain won't crap out when you type in characters (either GB or BIG5)-

    I'll post an update in my /. journal of the process - what happens, etc....

    Should be interesting at the very least to see what happens with this...

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    1. Re:Just tried to register a domain... by 2Bits · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, that's not true. Please provide the name of the registrar where you tried to register your domain. You probably get scammed by some unknown registrar outside of China.

      I own 2 chinese domain names (one for .com, the other for .cn). The registration fee is the same everywhere in China, namely, 280 RMB/year. That price is set by the government.

      And no, you don't need any other software. What's wrong with your Firefox/Mozilla?

      The only problem is, the government does not allow personal chinese domain name (registered by individuals for individuals), only corporations/organizations/institutions, etc.

  8. Re:Quick! by sydneyfong · · Score: 2, Informative

    As mentioned by a (currently) 0-score poster, this is Cantonese instead of Mandarin.

    Anyway, I'd like to say that for "Porn Video", the pronounciation is "haam dai" ("dai" rhymes with "fly")

    ("dai" in this context means "tape".)

    Hope that helps ;-p

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  9. Re:How do I do research? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Does this mean everyone is gonna have to go to UTF-8?

    i-DNS uses Punycode to encode the names.

    And while UTF-8 could be used to encode Chinese documents, "GB" encoding standards are the preferred way to go. The GB encodings were designed by Chinese people for the purpose of encoding Chinese text efficiently.

    GB18030 is the latest revision that I've seen, and it is a beast. A couple of years ago we spent a bunch of time updating our code to ensure support for GB18030 because PRC requires you to support it if you want to sell your software there.

    I highly recommend this tutorial on character encoding if you want to learn more about encoding in general. (That tutorial does not focus on CJK encoding specifically, but it is a great primer on encoding in general.)

    Also, if you are trying to find good access to localized Chinese information, I strongly recommend learning the language. Any information written in English that you may come across was obviously not intended for a Chinese audience.