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Airbus A380 Completes Maiden Test Flight

crazy blade writes "The much anticipated maiden test flight of the Airbus A380 jumbo jet is underway. The aircraft left Blagnac International Airport in Toulouse, France at 10.29 hours local time (08.29 UTC) from runway 32L. Here are some photos if you're interested."

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  1. Wow. That's a BIG plane. by ubuntu · · Score: 5, Funny

    That reminds me -- I just saw a wicked movie.

  2. First A380 Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What a beauty - She took off with a takeoff weight of 150t less than the MTOW (Max Takeoff weight) of 560t. Only needed half the runway and made hardly any noise compared to the little Corvette which was the chase plane.

    A day I will never forget :)

  3. It's the economy model, stupid by panurge · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The key thing for the A380 is not just that it's big - it uses 20% less fuel per passenger mile than a 747. Given the predictions that oil production may peak this year or in 2006, that fuel efficiency could be very important.
    The thing also has huge (for an aircraft) cargo capability.

    Boeing still seems to be pinning its hopes on midsize wide bodied aircraft that fly between smaller airports. All I can say is, for Boeing to be right an awful lot of people need to be very wrong about the way the world is going.

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  4. Better photos... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Informative
  5. Re:Airbus by Oxygen99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bleh, and the US Government doesn't subsidise Boeing? Hmmm. Ok. Guess those big fat juicy aerospace and defence contracts are won purely on merit.

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  6. Re:Finally by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the seat-mile cost of the A380-800 is actually less than a 747-400 because it carries up to 50% more passengers than a 747-400 in a normal three-class configuration.

    The primary reason why they're building the A380-800 is because in Europe and much of Asia they have landing-slot restrictions as a noise-abatement measure. As a result, in order to increase passenger capacity the only way to go is to fly bigger planes. Here in the USA, landing-slot restrictions are not that big an issue, so there is far less need to buy bigger planes.

    However, expect the A380-800 to start flying to the USA starting in late 2006. QANTAS wants to fly the plane on the Sydney-Los Angeles route, and Singapore Airlines will fly the plane on the Singapore-Hong Kong-San Francisco route. In 2007, I expect Lufthansa to fly the A380-800 to the USA, probably on the Frankfurt-New York, Frankfurt-Los Angeles and Frankfurt-San Francisco routes.

  7. Re:Airbus by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, they dont. EU Governments provide whats called Launch Aid to Airbus, which is equal to 1/3rd development costs of the aircraft and consists of loans to that amount at national interest rates - yes Airbus pays back that aid with interest, so get your facts right. Launch Aid is something Boeing agreed to under the 1992 transatlantic industry agreement on competition.

    Some governments subsidise local production plants, but this is exactly the same as Boeing getting a $20billion tax break from Washington State to move its 777 production plant to that state.

    Pick your team, they are exactly the same.

  8. Re:Finally by Eternally+optimistic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Flying 500 people in one big airplane is more efficient than 250 each in 2 planes. But then, by some people's reasoning, people should just stay home.

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  9. Re:Airbus by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

    Speaking as a European taxpayer, European taxpayers often pay 100% of my ticket.

  10. Re:Bigger than Howard Hughes' dream by MtViewGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The only issue is whether the capacity will be taken advantage of effectively. While most flights now are booked solid, will the number of passengers be high enough to make the construction of these behemoths profitable?

    These routes right now could use the A380-800:

    London-Hong Kong
    London-Singapore
    London-Tokyo
    London-Singa pore-Sydney
    London-Bangkok-Sydney
    London-Johanne sberg
    London-Cape Town
    Paris-Montreal
    Paris-Tokyo
    Frankfurt-Tokyo
    Frankfurt-New York
    Frankfurt-Los Angeles
    Frankfurt-San Francisco
    Singapore-London
    Singapore-Tokyo
    Sing apore-Sydney
    Singapore-Taipei-Los Angeles
    Singapore-Hong Kong-San Francisco
    Seoul-Los Angeles
    Sydney-London via Singapore/Bangkok
    Sydney-Los Angeles

    Small wonder why among the first A380-800 flights to the USA are flown by QANTAS on the Sydney-Los Angeles route and Singapore Airlines on the Singapore-Hong Kong-San Francisco route.

  11. Re:When will India/China/Brazil/Russia enter the r by guacamole · · Score: 5, Informative

    The largest commercial plane, AN-124, is not Russian. It's made by the Antonov design bureau in Ukraine (although it might contain a significant number of Russian-made parts). BTW, Russia is already producing the wide-body IL-96 which is roughly in Boeing 767 to 777 class. As for making a passenger plane that matches the size of A380, I don't think that anyone else will follow that suit, not even Boeing, because lots of industry experts claim that the economies of scale and the demand in the superjumbo jet market are such that only one model can survive on that market profitably and Airbus came first.

  12. Re:When will India/China/Brazil/Russia enter the r by guacamole · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They didn't design it themselves (and could never have done it).

    Huh, a country that launched into the space on its own the first satelite, the first man, and the first space station (MIR, which at its height was bigger than ISS currently is) and which has built the largest cargo planes in the world couldn't have designed a supersonic passenger jet on its own? Please.

  13. Mandatory "your mom" joke by COMON$ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally a plane your mom can fit on...

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  14. Ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did anyone else notice the ads on the left
    apparently it's possible to get one on Ebay

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  15. Re:Hub & Spoke vs. Point-to-Point by no+haters · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You'll notice that every article talking about possible routes for the A380 refers to very long distance flights (US to Asia, US to India, etc) where point to point does not make sense. Point to point works extremely well for US travel, but once you need to go international, the hub and spoke system is a necessity, since you can't fill a plane daily with people who want to go from Albequerque(sp?) to Singapore.

  16. You're much safer on the Airbus by Digital_Quartz · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've flown a class D Airbus A320 simulator before (and by flown, I mean as the pilot). Class D sims are so realistic, that most airlines will let pilots log time in the sim as time in the air.

    A child of four could fly that plane.

    Essentially, a good way to think about it is; the plane is always on autopilot, and if you take "manual control" you're feeding requests into the autopilot, which it may or may not honor.

    For example; pull back on the stick and set the throttle to minimum. The plane will start to pitch up, and your airspeed drops off. Once you get close to stall speed, the plane will start increasing throttle to maintain speed. Once it runs out of throttle, it will start decreasing the angle of attack. Even if you give it hard over rudder, the plane simply will not stall.

    I did a "flame-out" landing, with no fuel, Gimli-Glider style, and aside from the fact that I blew out some tires (no ABS when the engines are out on an A-320), I landed the plane no problem.

    My cousin, who used to fly for Air Canada, said that by Air Canada rules, they had to fly under pilot control on takeoff until they were at 500 feet. After that, they could let the computer fly the plane to their destination AND LAND without further human intervention.

    As far as concerns over "computer faults" go; the Airbus computer consists of (IIRC) 7 processors, which all vote to determine what to do. If a given processor disagrees or starts acting wonky, it gets rebooted. Each of these 7 processors is running different code, based on different designs, by different teams of software engineers. The only thing they have in common is that they were developed from the same requirements.

  17. Re:Excuse me? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry, you got that one wrong as well. The first space station was indeed Russian, Salyut 1, launched April 19, 1971.

  18. Re:Excuse me? by Rimbo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think by "space station" he meant "space station that didn't subsequently drop out of the sky like a brick"

  19. Heh by Veinor · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've seen eBay trying to sell me zeta functions.

  20. Re:When will India/China/Brazil/Russia enter the r by Brain_Recall · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Russians also have a title of the largest flying vechile, the Ekranoplan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekranoplan

    Roughly 100m long, weighing 540 metric tons fully loaded, and flying at 2m above the water at 400km/h. Its tail section was 5 stories high.

    It's a ground-effect vechile, where the stubby wings trap a pocket of air that allow the vechile to "hover" of sorts. They built a few of them before the collapse, mostly intended as fast, below radar troop transports and as naval destroyers.

    Here's a video of it in action (in German): http://www.ingopagehome.de/franz/MOV_Ekrano_Lun.mp g
    Interesting note: the man helping push the throttles is the lead designer, Rostislav Alexeev.