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Graphical Gentoo Installer In The Works

JonLatane writes "Without a doubt, Gentoo has set itself apart from every other distro out there. Because it's source-based, it's notorious for its speed. Because of emerge, it's notorious for being simple to maintain. And because of its "install system" (if it can be called that), it's notorious for scaring off potential users before they even get to try it. Well, that's all going to change, because there is a graphical Gentoo installer in the works. It can run with a dialog frontend that bears a striking similarity to Ubuntu, or for faster systems a GTK+ frontend is available."

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  1. Re:I Dub Thee, "Sir Troll" by Dark+Coder · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I resent that remark of "don't have the 4 GHz computer..."

    I happened to have a fabled Netpliance running 333Mhz WinChip of which it is highly optimized.

    Now, this fine piece of workmanship sports a Mozilla Firebird 1.0.3 complete with Adblock/FlashBlock plugin and PGP mail support.

    Plus it sits on my kitchen counter sporting a USB bluetooth.

    And IF I had "massaged" RedHat AES into this slowpoke (but a very portable LCD-based panel computer), it runs for crap.

    So, SCHTUPT THE PHUCK UP with your quest for ignoring "silly arguments" and listen to the fact.

    Gentoo user are a breed that leverages highly-optimized and finely tuned machine that is unrivaled by no other Linux distros. On a wide variety of CPU speed.

    Dumb kopfts...

  2. Re:I learned very important things from Gentoo by greg_barton · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Turns out there was nothing to learn from installing Gentoo from stage 1. I already knew what goes into a system at the most basic level, but I got this from 10+ years of Unix/Linux experience, before I ever saw Gentoo.

    And you get the "FUCKIN' DUH" award for the day.

    Jebus. This is what passes for an "interesting" comment on slashdot these days?

  3. Re:I Dub Thee, "Sir Troll" by NekkidBob · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    So, you've been using Linux since Torvalds wrote it back in the early 90's? Back then you had to have Minix just to install Linux, bet that was fun. Because if I remember correctly, Linux was born in '93, only 12 years ago, and that's if it was written in the begining of '93. And what are these Linux kernel based systems, I wasn't aware of any systems based on the Linux kernel, other than Linux?

  4. Re:I learned very important things from Gentoo by Azghoul · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "3. Turns out there was nothing to learn from installing Gentoo from stage 1. I already knew what goes into a system at the most basic level, but I got this from 10+ years of Unix/Linux experience, before I ever saw Gentoo."

    Don't be an ass. I could explain why your statement makes you an ass, but I think it'd fall on deaf ears.

  5. Gentoo Tranlate-O-Matic returns! by Sweetshark · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Gentoo Tranlate-O-Matic returns:
    1. My time is better spent doing things other than compiling basic system utilities.
    "The install would have been faster if I would have RTFM'ed and learned about Stage3+GRP or had http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/"
    2. My optimized Gentoo system does not run faster enough to make up for the time lost building it from source.
    "I really did trust the ramblings of clueless newbies of any distro."
    3. Turns out there was nothing to learn from installing Gentoo from stage 1. I already knew what goes into a system at the most basic level, but I got this from 10+ years of Unix/Linux experience, before I ever saw Gentoo.
    "I cheerfully ignored the good stuff, like for example an excellent initscript layout, and whine on /. how gentoo is not completely different from other linux/unix setups."
    Going to try MEPIS now. 'Sposed to be easy and painless.
    "Next week, you will hear be bitch about MEPIS."

  6. Re:Notorious for its speed?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Count this as a "me too." Just wait until emerge crashes in the middle of updating libc and leaves you with an unusable system. You'll be burning a new Ubuntu CD (on another system, natch) in no time.

  7. Re:I Dub Thee, "Sir Troll" by VolcomPimp · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    All you morons who've never used source-based distro's are the troll's here. I don't use Gentoo at the moment, nor am I a zeolot who takes a side in the debate but I have used Gentoo for an extensive period of time, and have found that compiling from source does increase speed for many reasons. For one, leaving stuff out improves speed. This isn't a solely source vs binary factor because Arch Linux leaves out certain things most people don't need (and is also compiled for i686 machines) and as a result certain programs are executed faster. Having your code compiled specificly to your architecture etc also helps a little. Many here bitch about how minimal the increase in speed is, but if you use Gentoo effectively you'll definitely see a speed difference. It's all the same code, just with Gentoo it's compiled specificly for you, why do people find the need to bitch? It's all the same! Quit being jelious and crying because about optimizations as if that's the only reason anyone uses Gentoo. It just shows why you don't use, because you just don't know shit about the distribution in the first place and it's real purpose.

  8. It's already been done before... by LibrePensador · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Vidalinux is Gentoo with the Anaconda installer. So there isn't much novelty to this project. In my LUG, the most dangerous users are Gentoo users.

    Usually, they have been running Linux for less than six months. They barely understand unix permissions or init levels or any other basic stuff, but are entirely self-complacent because they managed to type enough commands to install Gentoo. They are also terrible open source advocates because they scare away potential users by pretending that there is no other good way to install a Linux system.

    Mandrake's and Red Hat's installers are easier, more flexible, faster and produce a working system every time.

    --
    Pragmatism as an ideology is not particularly pragmatic in the long term. Keep it in mind when you dismiss Free Software