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Samsung HDD Merges Flash, Conventional Storage

geekboxjockey points "This is a link to a story about a hybrid hard-drive technology from Samsung that involves the use of flash memory and conventional storage. A very interesting idea that could provide noticeable energy useage/speed improvements for HDD-based portable devices."

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  1. Suppose you had 10GB of primary memory... by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah ... to be used for something called a ***CACHE***.

    If you had 10GB of memory in a Linux/BSD box you'd get this "boost" too ...

    As for saving costs by lowering failure ... let's hope they don't use cheap flash controllers. Of all the flash based mp3 players I've had [usually got for free with a purchase] most of them fail on a lengthy write or two...

    More so let's hope we can still replace this hd+flash combo with a coventional HD.

    I know for my Presario laptop [Compaq 2100CA] the replacement HD [Hitachi 60GB] is ==>$710 CAD== while a faster Samsung 40GB is $90 ...

    So what i'm trying to say is ... less ass rapage please.

    Tom

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  2. Re:A gimmick by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They talk in the article about Longhorn using 64-bit memory addressing so you'll be getting gobs of main memory. When your page table is 10GB like they mention in the article then there would be little to no reason for another paging system inside the harddrive. As much as I like modularity this is just silly.

    It's definitely a gimmick, and a nearly useless one when everyone's upgraded to their 64-bit systems. Do you want your memory cached on something connected to the FSB or do you want it done out on a device? I don't even understand why they're trying to get into this game.

    It's like making a pencil that never wears down but putting the same old erasers on it.

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  3. Very short lifetime.... by yani · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It seems that most people are forgetting a very important fact - flash memory has a limited number of writes. For normal usage (e.g. sd card/usb memory key) you will never encounter these, but as soon as you do something like this...

    This just doesn't make sense to me, instead of caching in system memory (how the power savings are done in linux laptop-mode) they are caching to flash which is slower, the only advantage is the data won't be lost in flash.

    However what about swap? Does the flash cache distinguish between swapfile writes/normal data? If not you just bought a hard drive with a very short lifetime. Even if it only uses flash for normal data writes, this drive will have a considerably shorter lifetime.

  4. Can we please stop calling everything technology? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're using 64 bit technology. The other guys have dual-memory technology. I have technology on my wrist that allows me to tell time.

    Can we please stop calling everything technology? At one point the word had meaning, but it's been so over used now that it means nothing. Now it's just a way to make something look more impressive than it actually is, a for-nerds buzzword. "Our emergent 64 bit technology allows for vertical integration along all of your supply-chain specifications." It's a painfully overused buzzword. 64 bit technology. Plastics technology. SUV technology. Technological technology.

    Some things still deserve the term. Pretty much anything fusion-related can be given the term fusion technology. But the term technology is being applied to a lot of things that are just design choices. Win 3.1 could have had 64 bit memory addressing, they just didn't because it would have been a huge wasted of prescious resources. Calling it "64 bit technology" is like saying a car has 4-door technology: it's a design choice, not a radical piece of tech.

    And these damn kids keep throwing their frisbies on my lawn.

  5. Re:Hardvaporware ? by mp3phish · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You imply that a powerbook made by Apple Computer would somehow implement futuristic types of storage faster than other platforms. You might need a history lesson:

    Apple was the last mainstream manufacturer in the industry to implement USB2.0 into their systems for use with Hi Speed USB flash memory devices.

    Apple was the last mainstream manufacturer in the industry to install SATA drives into their systems.

    Apple was the last mainstream manufacturer in the industry to install DVD burners into their systems.

    Apple was the last mainstream manufacturer in the industry to move from SCSI to IDE for consumer systems.

    I highly doubt Apple will be the first manufacturer to implement holographic storage into their laptops. As they are usually the last manufacturer to move to new types of storage technology in their products.

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