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Pi: Less Random Than We Thought

Autoversicherung writes "Physicists including Purdue's Ephraim Fischbach have completed a study comparing the 'randomness' in pi to that produced by 30 software random-number generators and one chaos-generating physical machine. After conducting several tests, they have found that while sequences of digits from pi are indeed an acceptable source of randomness -- often an important factor in data encryption and in solving certain physics problems -- pi's digit string does not always produce randomness as effectively as manufactured generators do."

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  1. Re:because it ain't random by mobby_6kl · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's only because they forgot to randomize first!

  2. Re:infinitely improbable by Avenger337 · · Score: 4, Funny

    OMG!!! You mean Pi knows my SSN??? It must be a terrorist! We have to do something! (Maybe it knows where WMDs are, too)

  3. Re:Computing any digit of pi by cperciva · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not only that, but the five trillionth, forty trillionth, and the quadrillionth bits of Pi are all zero... I did all that work, and it all came to naught.

  4. In school by gsasha · · Score: 4, Funny

    I had a teacher who insisted that Pi is exactly 3.14, and that the radiation after nuclear explosion decays by a factor of 2 in exactly 5 hours.
    Admittedly, he wasn't a math teacher though...

  5. Re:I'm not too suprised by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even quantum physics, although theoretically 'random', is generally predictable and reliably recreatable for a large T distribution over time.
    If you want truly unpredictable, unrecreatable, random numbers - let my wife balance your checkbook.

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    Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
  6. Re:Did Sagan See This? by KI0PX · · Score: 4, Funny

    Calculate it in base pi. After one digit, you'll get an infinite sequence of zeroes.

    10.000000......

  7. Are you sure it's random? by waynemcdougall · · Score: 4, Funny

    Accounting Troll: "Over here we have our random number generator"

    Number Generator Troll: "Nine Nine Nine Nine Nine Nine"

    Dilbert: "Are you sure that's random?"

    Accounting Troll: "That's the problem with randomness: you can never be sure"

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    Recycle PCs and build a wireless community network www.hillsborough.org.nz
  8. Re:Al-Kashi, a cool mathematician by cryptor3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Problem solved, next problem. ... Here's to Al-Kashi, a sane man and a pragmatic!

    Lazy bastard.