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Handling Viruses in an Uncontrolled Network?
An anonymous reader asks: "Recently I've gotten a (volunteer) job looking after a small (approximately 500 computer) network, located within a large block of student flats.
We've been having numerous problems with viruses over a few years. They spread like crazy on our network, with 100megabit connections in every residents room. Every so often they 'go off' and start a flood, which of course takes the entire residence network down. I've tried desperately to educate users on the virus problem, but those that are the problem don't care - they ignore every warning they get and just buy a faster computer to compensate for their systems sluggishness. As we only need two or three ping flooding computers to bring down the network it's hard to keep our network up whenever a worm starts its payload. What solutions have Slashdot readers came up with this and similar problems?"
"Keep in mind that I'm doing this on a volunteer basis, and that my own study time and personal life takes first priority. The residence isn't prepared to spend more money bringing help or a replacement in, which I can understand given that I pay them rent that I would prefer not to increase. I also don't have any control over the network infrastructure itself, just over our DHCP server. I can't force users to keep their computers safe, as I don't own the things - all it seems I can do is point them to the *FREE!* virus scanner and local Windows update mirror and urge them to protect their computer, and offer to help out those that need it - (although due to time constraints, personally helping out everyone in a 500 member network isn't a possibility).
I can also email off a request to have certain IPs dropped off at the switch, but those users have to come back online soon enough. Whenever someone is infected I try and sit them down and make them realize that keeping their computer safe is their responsibility, and they always seem very attentive whenever we're discussing when they get reconnected to the network, but soon after they'll be infected again."
I can also email off a request to have certain IPs dropped off at the switch, but those users have to come back online soon enough. Whenever someone is infected I try and sit them down and make them realize that keeping their computer safe is their responsibility, and they always seem very attentive whenever we're discussing when they get reconnected to the network, but soon after they'll be infected again."
Just reconfigure the guys that keep spewing to ether deny access, or return that the computer's IP address is 127.0.0.1.
When they come in complaining, babysit them at their computer.
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by clogging the network, they prevent other people from doing thier work. It's standard procedure at some universities to shut off the ports of problem systems.
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The idea is simple: Egress filtering.
Strict policies on outgoing traffic for untrusted networks is essential.
I would suggest a default policy of something like www, ssh, msn/aim im, p2p programs (possibly, depending on the uni's rules and regulations).
Providing you have a mechanism for giving the students access to other ports when necessary, then there should be no problem enforcing a strict egress policy.
I also don't have any control over the network infrastructure itself, just over our DHCP server.
With this you have all you need to run a NetReg server within your infrastructure. With this you can allow users to register their machines automatically. Any user with a virus or other such malware gets their dhcp entry deleted, and they are on a private network that goes to where you define. I would allow antivirus sites, antispyware sites, and windowsupdate only (or better yet, a local mirror).
Have them send an e-mail to user@host once this is complete and you can re-activate their lease.
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- Get an extra PC on the backbone of the network, so it can monitor
all the traffic. Anything bigger than a x486 is good enough, say with
128MB or more of RAM.
- Install OpenBSD ( http://www.openbsd.org/ ) on it (most hardened
free OS around, so the hackers can't take you down so easily).
- Install SNORT ( http://www.snort.org/ ) on it. Configure to work
as a network IDS and keep it up to date with the latest
vulnerability/virus plugins.
- Once SNORT gets wind of an infected machine, set it to do one of
three things:
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- If you have the tech skills to set it up, have SNORT block out
the switch port where the offending PC is plugged in AND send you a
message. When the owner cleans up their act, reactivate the port and
restore connectivity.
- Else, have SNORT send you a message with all the details and
YOU do the port blocking, if you can. The rest proceeds as above.
- Else, have SNORT send you a message so you can bitch whomever
has the capability to block the port. The rest proceeds as above.
- If your authority is so puny that you cannot do any of these
things, you could resort to sending out a mail to all the rest of the
users of the network, and letting them know who the miscreant screwing
up their connectivity is, and let peer pressure do its thing...
Good luck!Have you figured out exactly why a few infected computers is bringing down your whole network? I could see if they are scanning local subnets, you would have a lot of broadcast ARP packets. If they are scanning remote network IPs, you may be filling up a cache on the outbound router. Are you sure you don't have a few people just playing with NMAP? Is it inbound traffic or outbound? Identify the nature of the traffic when the network implodes, look for a pattern, and see if you can mitigate that. Use ethereal for that.
This is a *switched* network isn't it? Hopefully yes, and with a firewall also. I really can't see why someone would need inbound tcp/135,137,138,139,445,1025 or udp/135,1026-1029 nowadays. That would prevent malware that is not spread by email or Explorer. I won't recommend you dictate the browser or email client people use, but it's a possibility to have a outbound web proxy not forward any requests from IE.
You might also want to look into snort, you could at least have it alert you when the problem starts, or shut down ports, but sounds like you have not had much luck with that. Note rather than drop people off the face of the earth, at least make sure they can get to antivirus sites and microsoft updates. This is tough without access to the infrastructure but would improve things.
Another suggestion is if you do not have alot of room to room traffic, and you do not have a 100mb conenction to the net, configure all ports to 10mb. At least that way it takes more than 10 users to flood your 100mbit backbone. And users accessing the net are always throttled by your outbound connection so they won't know the difference.
I assume you volunteered for this because you like like this stuff. Note that if you *did* spend more time on this problem than your schoolwork, and came up with a solution, you might not even need to finish school.
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My school has a very effective setup for controlling outbreaks. To start, the network is MAC filtered. Any time you connect to the network with an unlisted MAC address, your browser is redirected to a page containing the university Terms of Service for the network. You read this information, toss in your university ID and password and click I AGREE, and the program adds your MAC to the list.
As outlined in the TOS, there are no warnings. If your computer exibits any viral behavior, your network access is removed. Unless your virus was email-related, you still have access to the mail servers. When you try to use the internet again, you are once again taken to a limited page, which politely tells you that your computer appeared to be infected with a virus. You are given basic cleaning information, as well as the tech department phone number and email address in case you need help. They can also provide you with tools like AdAware, since you won't be able to download these yourself. Then, once you are confident your computer is clean, you call the tech department, and they run a quick check to see that your computer is no longer showing viral activity. At this point, your network access is returned.
There are no warnings. As soon as you cause a problem, the problem (you) is removed. Once you fix the problem, access is restored. I don't know their policy for repeat offenders, but I assume there is something.
Computers need to explode more often.
This is the method used at Texas A&M University, which I attend, for their residence hall network.
We use netsquid, http://netsquid.tamu.edu/, which is essentially some code that ties into snort to provide automatic filtering by mac address and notification.
It works quite well.