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Revenge of the Sith a "Blood Bath"
An anonymous reader writes "The BBC is reporting that the Revenge of the Sith is a blood bath and is to recieve a PG-13. One notable point from the article is Lucas is quoted as saying "But I have to tell a story. I'm not making these, oddly enough, to be giant, successful blockbusters. I'm making them because I'm telling a story, and I have to tell the story I intended." As he lit a cigar with a large stack of burning 20's."
Ok...
I guess we need to figure out how we kill Jedi in a soft well meaning conservitive and correct manner. (They can't all whisk away to ghosts can they? What's that about anyway?)
Besides, I'd rather not watch an hour and a half of G.I. Joe style combat.
"You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours." -- Yogi Berra
Does this suprise anyone? We all know the story already. Darth Vader doesn't become Darth Vader with out some serious action. A clone army is not going to win a war with out a large loss of life. Yoda is not going to just leave the hot zone to live on some God forsaken swamp planet because a few people died. We've all know that it would take thousands and thousands of dead clones and mutilated Jedi.
On top of that, it has to be so bloody that we all lose hope. Otherwise, why would there be a "New" hope?
Rise Lord Vader!
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"But I have to tell a story. I'm not making these, oddly enough, to be giant, successful blockbusters."
Unfortunately, Luca is not a good story teller. He is great at effects and the details that bring a vision to life. He really needed Spielberg.
They're not necessarily forced to go. Some really won't go and their children won't see it as a result.
Wouldn't be a surprise if this hurt ticket sales.
* shrug *
My kids (age 13 and 17) have said they want to go see it. Last time they wanted to see a movie it was, um, I don't remember them ever both saying they wanted to see the same movie.
We'll go, probably the first weekend.
Go Darth!
(I just like to cheer for the winning side)
(Sorry for the spoiler)
(But anybody who's see Star Wars IV knew that already)
(We already know the ending. The only thing left to see is the blood!)
Raise your children as if you were teaching them to raise your grandchildren, because you are.
Actually, most (11 out of the top 20) of the top (domestic) grossing movies of all time have been PG-13 or higher.
In the UK the film got a 12A rating from the BBFC (persons under 12 admited with an adult) as are increacingly more films
Local councils still have the right to change the rating policy for any film, but only rarely do so.
The consumer advice from the bbfc is "Contains moderate fantasy violence and scary scenes" although virtually every film has some advice (Finding Nemo "Contains mild peril")
I know, I know - it's just the old, "if you don't like it, SHUT UP!" || "if you like it then post on a fanboi forum! and SHUT UP" arguments.
But seriously, you cannot fault the technical achievements of these movies.
And I know that many (if not most) are of the opinion that movies are primarily about the characters and the story, but I am of very different taste.
you see, I am the kind of guy who sits down with EPII attack of the clones and pauses the corusant scenes and goes frame by frame through them to just admire all the amazing design and creation.
I love to stare in awe at the new particle systems, the accuracy of the human computer models and the beautiful, alien landscapes painted before my eyes.
But that's me, and I am of a small minority I know. I am that small minority that actually doesn't really care for chatty movies. Didn't really think the godfather was really all that. Never sees a movie unless there are spaceships and explosions - and then only if the movie is about that universe and not just the people in it.
Nevertheless I feel that those like me should have something of a voice.
There are three movie types in my world:
1) Movies about people
2) Movies about events
3) Movies about ideas
I prefer the order of importance to be 3,2,1 and Star Wars seems to fit that type for me quite well.
Lets face it, a determined kid is going to be able to see this movie no matter what. There are so many ways to see movies with DVDs, on-demand, friend's house, etc that except for XXX a kid is going to see it. And with the internet even the XXX obstacle is a maybe.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
You miss the point. Iraqis are poor, brown, and not "Hollywood" attractive in general whereas the deaths in Star Wars are happening to many attractive, reasonably well-off, white people. Can't you see who the average couch warming American would care more about?
Not nationally, at least. A given theater manager may choose to require parental presence at a PG-13 movie but it's not part of the MPAA's system. Theaters have only agreed to enforce parental presence at R-rated movies and no children period at NC-17 movies. PG-13 is simply a stronger warning to parents than PG that they should consider whether or not their kids should see it.
Incidentally, a popular movie having an R rating usually bumps the sales of whatever G or PG-rated movies are playing at the same time. That's why Disney summer animations made so much money: kids couldn't buy a ticket to Terminator 2, but they could buy a ticket to the Lion King and then sneak into the T2 auditorium.
All's true that is mistrusted
... What proof of age did you have on you at 13 years old?
...but perhaps Lucas is losing his focus..
.. visual STORIES.
He wants it to be all colorful and vibrant so he gives us episode 1 with lush green hills, bright yellow naboo fighters and purple lightsabers...
Episode 2, Lucas thinks people want to see Yoda kicking ass... so what do we get? A green jumping bean with a switchblade sized lightsabre.. jedi's with fleshy dreadlocks, and the cheesiest most shallow acting known to man..
He hears his fans screaming for a darker Star Wars and so he delivers a "blood bath".. which I believe will be just as big a flop as the others.. because George just keeps focusing on the visuals and not on the storyline.. and isn't this what movies are
If the story portion fails, the whole thing fails... just ask anyone who plays video games with great graphics and bad gameplay.
Lucas needs to stop trying to deliver what he thinks the audience is asking for and FOCUS on getting a good story together...
That's very funny, that C3PO cerial. It's so bad it almost looks like a parody. Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
You are, of course right. Maybe I'm just becoming a bitter old man and are noticing these things more and finding them offensive, whereas before I could more easily ignore them. For whatever reason, even if it was as bad as when I was a kid and the original Star Wars came out, I find the whole thing disgusting and offensive to my elevated tastes.
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It's a little bit misleading to call Episode 3 "bloodbath" when there is not a single drop of blood anywhere in it. :) True, there are some severed limbs and heads and (very stylized) burnt flesh but all "cuts" are very clean and quick (the reasoning probably being that lightsabers automatically cauterize the wound). The terrors are mostly psychological, due to surprisingly good directing and few neat plot ideas. (E.g. we don't ever SEE Anakin killing the Jedi kids but we know very clearly he did it)
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And it's getting harder and harder to find Tom and Jerry cartoons in children's programming, for both the violent content and the racism in it.
Go back and watch another kid's movie from the early to mid 80's. The amount of violence, sexuality, and swearing that was permitted has changed a lot. It used to be ok to show a topless woman in a PG-13 movie (and before PG-13, it was permitted in PG movies).
No doubt, the Puritanical Right in America has been working hard at regressing our social consciousness on human sexuality for the last 20 years, but there's still plenty of violence in those films that'd earn them a stiffer rating today.
"I have never won a debate with an ignorant person." -Ali ibn Abi Talib
Why single out PG-13... _all_ MPAA ratings are jsut advisory notations with no legal basis.
It is not illegal for a youngster to go to an R movie. It is not illegal for theatres (or anyone else) to show R movies to youngsters.
I think only in the last 10 years have theatres started to really enforce the age restrictions. But these are internal policies, not law.
Additionally, I believe there's no law prohibiting youngsters from seeing NC-17 movies based on rating alone. If the NC-17 movie contains pornography, of course, then that would be punishable under other laws.
(IANAL, of course)
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Adn let's not forget that PG-13 came into being because of Lucas and Speilberg's Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Here's a history of the ratings system from Answers.com.
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Jebus... 5 mod points, and I've already replied to this story. Doh!
For the moderators who thought the parent was "redundant": The parent is quite correct. Arguably a troll, and not very well informed, but not at all redundant.
The grandparent *is* linking to a copyrighted work... perhaps. Actually, I'm pretty seriously doubtful that it's real. If it *is* real, I'm very disapointed as it lacks several things:
1. No balance restored to the force (Lucas said point-blank that this was something resolved in ep 3, back when ep 1 came out).
2. Band-aid resolution to the ghost-jedi issue from ep 4-6, and nothing that would justify Obi Wan's comment from 4 ("If you cut me down...")
3. From what I've heard many of the events in the script are in the wrong time sequence.
4. It directly conflicts with other plot summaries on the same site!
I said it before, and I will say it again: explosive decompression; only that will make up for earlier obnoxious Jar Jar.
That's WAY too fast. How about moderately fast decompression so he swells up like in Total Recall, and thus suffers longer?
There's a fine balance to be struck here. Surely Jar-Jar deserves to suffer horribly, for 20 minutes of screen time, for the sins he has committed against us. But remember: that would be another 20 minutes of Jar-Jar.
Another approach: blow up a planet right at the beginning and then show Amidala crying because "poor Jar-Jar" was on it. And then don't show Jar-Jar. No, not at all.
The problem here is that we'd go through the whole movie in terror at the idea that Amidala was wrong, and that Jar-Jar will show up to surprise us (and force us to lose our lunches).
So perhaps a quick decapitation by Anakin's lightsaber, followed by a reassuring *thunk*, and a smile of satisfaction on the evil Skywalker's face, is the best we should hope for.
Why read the script when the commercials show plainly how bad the story and dialogue are going to be?
It's a pity that people treat Star Wars as a cultural event - as if Lucas deserved to have money simply laid at his feet. It isn't, he doesn't.
Just don't go. This guy is responsible for this piece of shit dialogue that should be written on his gravestone: "I don't like the sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating--not like you. You're soft and smooth."
Yeah, smooth...
I'd rather throw my money away on something a little less completely moronic.