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Sun Developers Refute OpenSolaris Vaporware Claims

daria42 writes "It looks like an anonymous post on OSNews.com claiming OpenSolaris is vaporware was the last straw for two frustrated Sun Microsystems developers. They have responded furiously on their official Sun blogs, saying that they are currently working 'feverishly' on the project, and that it was taking so long because of the need to get rid of legal encumbrances to releasing the code. 'OpenSolaris certainly exists,' Sun kernel developer Alan Hargreaves says on his Sun blog. 'You only have to speak to anyone involved in getting it out there. There are a lot of us out there who both do and do not work for Sun.'"

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  1. Stuff that matters by fembots · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously who would need to refute claims like that? The sooner they get this thing out, the sooner the rumors will vaporize automatically. The rest is just a waste of time.

    Tell me which one would you believe more - Microsoft claiming that they're working on patches to fix some exploits "as we speak", or they're asking users to download the patches now?

    1. Re:Stuff that matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      bugged for code that was promised over a year ago

      You are obviously not familiar with corporate marketing. Or, for that matter, with marketing in general. Do you get mad at George Lucas because he promised Episode III almost five years ago (when he started Episode I)? Do you get mad because they started marketing it a year ago? Do you get mad because they started to release teaser trailers a couple of months ago? Do you get mad because they started running real trailers a few weeks ago? Shouldn't they just keep quiet about the whole thing and just release the trailers when the movie is done and out?

      Of course not, they have to create buzz to let people know what is coming and to build an audience.

      Sun didn't promise to release the code a year ago, they announced they would be releasing it. They've been pretty consistent in saying that it would be end of Q2. There's not been any reason to doubt that it will happen when they say.

  2. For Now, It's Still Vaporware by zeromemory · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I'm inclined to believe that Sun is really try to open up the source to Solaris, the fact that they've only been able to put up a website (which notably has more links to press releases and news articles than source code) and the source for DTrace in the months since they've stated their Great Plan to open-source Solaris, it's no wonder that members of the community are calling an open-source Solaris vaporware.

    1. Re:For Now, It's Still Vaporware by owlstead · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Knowing Sun, they are not going for a "it barely works" first release. These guys are quite serious about maintaining correct code. This is one of the things that OSS does *not* excel in particularly.

      People are always screaming at Sun to open source things (e.g. Java) but I wonder if the software quality would remain at the same high level as it is now. The good thing of Open Solaris is that drivers will be hacked, and Sun could take advantage of that. Let's hope it won't screw up their version management.

      From what I've seen, solaris is a very high quality, stable operating system. The only crash I ever saw from Solaris machines at the university was related to the floppy drive cable, which messed up communications inside the sparcstation.

  3. what month is it? by Daniel+Ellard · · Score: 5, Insightful
    OpenSolaris is supposed to appear in July. Did I oversleep today, or isn't it still May?

    It's a bit unfair to start calling something vaporware two months before the scheduled release.

    (I don't work on Solaris/OpenSolaris, so I have no special knowledge about the project, except that I know people are working are working on it.)

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    Disclaimer: I work for a company, but I don't speak for them.
  4. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Insightful

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  5. Re:Advice to developers by MrMickS · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Move along, nothing to see above. The parent rather than being informative is merely making a cheap shot.

    There are many examples wherein an oft repeated untruth is more widely accepted than the reality. What is so bad about people putting their comments into their blogs? Oh, I get it.. if they were real open sores developers then they would only have time for the project. The rest of life would be as nothing to the all encompassing goal of making it work.

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    You may think me a tired, old, cynic. I'd have to disagree about the tired bit.
  6. Correct English by Morosoph · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Sun Developers Refute OpenSolaris Vaporwear Claims
    'Refute' here should really read 'Deny': the proof is yet to come.