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Launch Date for First Solar Sail due Monday

PGillingwater writes "The Planetary Society (home of SETI) is planning to launch the first Solar Sail Spacecraft, Cosmos 1, later this month. The exact launch date is scheduled to be announced on Monday, May 9. This event represents one of the first privately-funded space missions with the objective of pure research. It will be launched from a Russian submarine in the Barents Sea. The spacecraft consists of a body surrounded by 8 triangular sails, that will use the tiny force of reflected sunlight to (potentially) accelerate to tremendous speeds. Unfortunately, the craft is not expected to leave Earth's orbit due to degradation of the mylar materials, but should be a proof of concept for subsequent missions."

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  1. Cost by bigtallmofo · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are many references to "low cost" when talking about the solar sail. For anyone curious, the price is about $4 million which relatively speaking, is low cost.

    I've only been a member of the Planetary Society for two years, but I'm proud that they're accomplishing this.

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  2. not the first by cahiha · · Score: 4, Informative

    The first solar sail spacecraft was launched by the Japanese last year. See here for more info.

    1. Re:not the first by stjobe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They tested a solar sail by launching it.

      No, they tested a solar sail deployment system. Read the OP's link or at least my quote from it, why don't you?

      Not that I don't agree that it is a bit of a stretch to call Cosmos 1 a spacecraft, but it is surely more of a spacecraft than the Japanese deployment system, which is why I specifically said that Cosmos 1 might still get to be the first (solar sail-powered spacecraft).

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    2. Re:not the first by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That was a suborbital launch. This is an orbital launch; so they'll actually be able to measure how well it works in practice.

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  3. Re:Heartening news by cahiha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the end, this kind of research will be vital to the survival of the race.

    Why all this concern with "survival of the race"? You have to face the inevitable fact that all things come to an end, even entire species, even if they are dispersed across the galaxy. We will invariably go extinct sooner or later, one way or another.

    Serious impacts are a low enough probability event not to worry about at this point; if our planet becomes uninhabitable for humans, it will be self-inflicted and there are far simpler ways of preventing that than space flight.

    In any case,solar sailing is a great thing, not to ship a few carcasses to another planet, but because it lets us do great science.

  4. Darn by kassemi · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm curious to ask the guest of honor at the tonight's convention says about how successful this will be :)

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  5. Re:Heartening news by jarich · · Score: 4, Insightful
    solar sailing is a great thing, not to ship a few carcasses to another planet, but because it lets us do great science.

    But if theren't any carcasses around to get the "great science" and do something with it, the value of "great science" is somewhat diminished. ;)

    Unless you believe in pure research for it's own sake...

  6. Re:Degradation? by attonitus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    To combat this, and see how it performed out of orbit, could it not have been launched from orbit?

    RTA. It is launched from orbit. A Volna rocket (plus some other bits and pieces) places the spaceship in orbit, where it will sit for a few days before the sail is deployed.

    What's more, you might want to think about what being "out of orbit" actually means. The moon is in orbit around the earth. I expect that if they got it that far (or to the same gravitational potential), they'd be very pleased with themselves. Although given that it's an experimental craft it might be more useful to them if they kept it closer.

  7. Re:Launching from a Russian Nuke Sub! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, this sounds like the Russians are developing a "stealth" satellite launch capability.

    No, it sounds like they're desperate for cash and have huge amounts of military hardware lying around. Selling launch capability to the highest bidder is preferable to selling ICBMs to the highest bidder.

  8. Re:Looking forward to this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's also been at least one physicist saying that time cube should be taken seriously.

  9. Re:Heartening news by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Interesting
    if our planet becomes uninhabitable for humans, it will be self-inflicted and there are far simpler ways of preventing that than space flight.

    In fact, there is just about no conceivable way for our planet to become less inhabitable to humans than any alternative in our solar system. Even after an impact the size of the one that killed off the dinosaurs, you'd be much better off in a bunker on earth than trying to survive in a tin can on dry, oxygenless Mars.

    If we are concerned about the survival of the species in face of these kinds of events, we should build a few Dr. Strangelove-style shelters deep underground. It would be easily doable with current technology, and it would be far cheaper than trying to establish colonies on lifeless planets.

  10. Re:Heartening news by rben · · Score: 5, Interesting
    > if our planet becomes uninhabitable for humans, it will be self-inflicted and there are far simpler ways of preventing that than space flight.

    Resources in space might be necessary to meet the challenges we face over the next century or two. The resources available in just the Near Earth Asteroids are, if you'll pardon the pun, astronomical. A typical large type M asteroid might have as much as a 150 billion dollars worth of platinum and enough iron to replace all the mining done on Earth for five years. With the resources in the asteroids, we could build enormous structures in space without having to lift mass off the Earth. If fusion is ever to be a real power source, it's likely that we'll need the helium-three that is available in large quantities on the Moon, and almost non-existent on Earth.

    Moving power production and dirty industries to space might be a way to continue to improve the standard of lving for humanity as a whole, without destroying our environment.

    The threat of a catastophe that is purely natural is also real, even if the probability is low. Asteroid 2004 MN4 seems likely to come very close, if not actually hit, Earth in 2035 and 2036, depending on how it's course is affected by it's close pass in 2029. Though it's not a dinosaur killer, it's big enough to do serious damage. Many of the readers of slashdot will be alive when that happens. There is also a tiny, but real chance that a super-caldera, such as the one in yellowstone might erupt, which would be devistating for the entire planet. It's risky to have all our eggs in one basket.

    You shouldn't discount what might be learned by moving into space. Being forced to create and maintain balanced ecologies will give us great insights into how the Earth works and how to better manage it.

    The Earth is not naturally hospitable to human beings. There are plenty if records of dramatic changes that have taken place that would have wiped out human beings like they did most other species.

    The knowledge we gain from science is itself worth the investment, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't constantly be looking for ways to use what we learn to deal with our current and future needs.

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  11. Numerous benefits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The benefits include ...

    1. No extra launcher costs, since the subs with launch capability already exist.

    2. No launchpad safety costs, since crew is already isolated from the launch tube for ejection.

    3. No launch area safety costs, since the ocean provides a free barrier against rocket blast and against falling debris.

    4. Extremely secure launch facility.

    5. Impervious to weather while submerged waiting for launch window.

    6. Mobility allows poor weather to be bypassed.

    7. Mobility allows choice of launch coordinates to suit different injections paths.

    There are downsides too though ...