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45GB Triple-Layer HD DVDs

Posted by timothy on from the my-laptop's-drive-now-feels-tiny dept.

m4c north writes "Toshiba has developed a new DVD-ROM: 45GB spread over 3 layers. From the press release (which has a few illustrations) the new discs have the ability "to record twelve hours of high-definition movies on a single disc." They've also added a "dual-layer hybrid ROM disc comprised of a dual-layer HD DVD-ROM side and a dual-layer DVD-ROM side." Japan Today's article adds, "The huge capacity means that a single disk can store a Hollywood movie trilogy." Do I smell yet another Star Wars re-re-release? Toshiba will take the wraps off the new DVDs at the Media-Tech Expo 2005 in Las Vegas. The HD DVD Promotion group offers the press release in PDF."

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  1. In Search of a Standard... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the new discs have the ability "to record twelve hours of high-definition movies on a single disc.

    It's a shame that the DVD community doesn't have the ability to decide on a standard...

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    1. Re:In Search of a Standard... by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not like the community can.

      Both Sony and Toshiba have their reasons to capture the High-def DVD market with their technology. And there hasn't been any actual products any of these formats for the market to decide which is better.

      To many, there's no point in deciding now, as it would reduce any incentive for these companies to improve on their products and there is really no criteria on which to decide (except storage space, which is not a good measuring rod at all).

      When products which use these technologies are released, the market will be able to choose. And one just hopes they choose wisely.

  2. Fine. Whatever. by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When everyone finally jumps off the fence and starts manufacturing, distributing and fully supporting what technology they all settle on, drop me a line.

    I'm sure Star Wars re-re-re-released on HD DVD will be stunning, but I'm rather skeptical about when I'll actually have a HD TV to watch it on. As it is, the set I just got is pretty damn good when viewed on a non-CRT screen (no black lines.) A couple years ago Philips had the TV/Monitor to watch HD on, but it was $18,000. I'm certain that kind of quality hasn't come down far enough in price, nor shall it in the next 3 years for me to even consider buying one (probably only when I get HD Soccer on FSC or such.) Meanwhile, as we saw the other day, someone has nanotubes which may make some really great screens, but probably won't actually hit consumer markets, priced attactively (gotta pay off that investment in research.)

    Heck, I'm only moving to a 64bit CPU at home because 32bit motherboards aren't being innovated anymore and I need a new mobo. It'll probably be a burned out monitor that forces me to get the nanotube screen and a few really good movie titles which convince me to upgrade to a new DVD (only because non HD players aren't made at that point.)

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    1. Re:Fine. Whatever. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful


      "Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate, so we can buy shit we don't need."

      - Tyler Durden, Fight Club

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  3. Arg! by Enigma_Man · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just imagine how many different models of CD(or whatever)-ROMs we're going to need now, and how many sub-versions (a-la DVD-R, DVD+R) we'll have.

    The packaging on burners will look something like this:
    16x4x16x DVD+RW / 12x4x16x DVD-RW / 5x DVD+R DL / 4x HD DVD+R / 32X HD3-DVD1-R+RW / etc / etc

    -Jesse

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  4. Obligatory Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from."
    - Andrew S. Tannenbaum

  5. Re:Still not enough. by Heisenbug · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One reason I've heard for limiting the size is that the bigger the disk, the faster the outside edge is moving per RPM. When you're reading the inside edge at a suitable data rate, the outside edge will be shredding itself from the speed. I can't vouch for that being the reason, but it could be.

    Another reason I'd just as soon they didn't is that I have tons of ways to store CDs and DVDs, cases and racks and so on, and bigger disks wouldn't work with any of them. I imagine this is a much more serious problem further up the supply chain -- there's tons of ways that having identically-sized media saves money when moving to a new format.

    Oh, and I think bigger disks would be considered ugly by consumers, for whatever that's worth.