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Paul Graham: Hiring is Obsolete

jazznjava writes "Paul Graham has a new essay covering what the influences of declining operating costs will have on startup companies, and the undervaluation of undergraduates."

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  1. Outsourcing... by Virtual+Karma · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Outsourcing will definately bring down the average wages. The only way for local graduates to be hired will be to offer their services for lesser pay. This will also translate to lower standard of living. Think about it...

    1. Re:Outsourcing... by wpiman · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The dollar is likely to fall- and the Rupee gain-- so I think equalibrium will eventually come.

      But your point is valid- he doesn't mention outsourcing at all.

  2. Paul's recurring theme... by MarkEst1973 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Have you noticed the essays he's written? They all trend in the direction of this most recent essay. I say he's rather encouraging.

    His points over many essays are nearly always the same, but looked at from different angles:

    • do hard work (and work hard)
    • hang around with smart people
    • don't follow trends, blaze your own trail
    • start with good ideas
    • spend as little as possible
    • the internet leverages your investment
    • your biggest investment is time
    • Tech matters (as do languages and platforms)
    • He did it (started a successful company and sold out). All of his essays encourage you to as well.
    I cannot understand why anyone on this site does not like what he has to say. He's saying the time has never been better to start a business, keep your costs low and make better technology your advantage, and he's entirely encouraging with his style of presentation.

    I, for one, thank Paul Graham for his insight into something I want to do.

    Oh, and if you didn't know this nugget of wisdom: Find and listen to someone who has done what you want to do. Don't listen to the masses. Listen to someone's who's done it.

  3. What Paul Really Does... by quark101 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems to me that while, as several users have pointed out, Paul doesn't really present anything new; what he does do is to point out things that most people don't see. While some people already know in detail what he is talking about, many do not, and he is opening the eyes of these people.

    Having read about 2/3 of his articles, I have realized that most of what he talks about, I already, at some level, know. The article helps to see a topic in a new light though. Yes, some of his articles aren't all that great, and are stuff that is generally know, but very few writers are always successful.

    It is the same reason that we have books on science or programming or how to use Windows, or any other number of topics. A subset of the population already intimately understands these ideas. However, to the rest of us, it lets us understand and explore the ideas in ways that never would have occurred to us/been possible.

    If you really don't like Paul's articles, then don't read them. They only come up every few weeks. It's not like he posts a new one every other day.

  4. Utter bullcrap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The IBM-PC design was open architecture from day one, which had absolutely nothing to do with MS. Zilch. Nada.

    IBM was briefly considering the new MC68000 as a CPU, but Motorola couldn't promise the volume. In an alternate universe, they might have been able to do that, in which case the obvious choice for OS would have been Microware's OS9/68k.

    That would have given as an IBM-PC with a clean CPU design, coupled with a clean and modular OS with true multiuser and multitasking from the word go.

    I sometimes wonder what the world would have been like today if that had been the first IBM-PC...

  5. Re:Bill Gates at Apple by michaeldot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If Gates had never created Microsoft, and never cloned the PC's underpinnings away from IBM, we would probably never have seen the day of ubiquitous, commodity PCs.

    It was Compaq that reverse engineered the BIOS to start the clones rolling. All those clones then ultimately ran Microsoft's OS because its aggressive marketing techniques drove out all other competitors.

    Result: a 95+% domination of the market, establishing a monoculture where almost everyone uses Windows, Outlook, IE, with the resulting lack of innovation, viruses, and security holes that monocultures bring with it.

    Alternate history: If Microsoft hadn't come into being, companies that made alternate OSes (DR-DOS, GemStar, Visio, etc) could have continued and the situation could be like the various Linux distros (Red Hat, SuSE, Gentoo) today, except on a much more marketshare significant scale. Hardware markers would still have flourished, widespread demand for hardware would still have driven PC prices down to commodity levels.

    This was actually like the situation before Microsoft came to dominate. Lots of computer makers - Commodore, Atari, Tandy, etc - competing with both hardware and an OS. The big bad Apple was never a monopoly - at its height the Mac had a maximum of 18% marketshare, and even the venerable Apple II no more than 50%. There were always others. IBM may have started the monoculture, but it was Microsoft that embraced and established it.

  6. Re:Who thinks recent grads are undervalued? by Mattintosh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bullshit.

    I am usually considered an "early-career professional without a degree" because I went to community college instead of "real" college because that's what I could afford. I've forgotten more things than the average beer-swilling, frat-party-attending, cow-tipping college asshat has ever known. I know this because I work with several of them. Sounds like they've done it all, though.

    I constantly learn new things and new ways of doing old stuff. I've taught myself (books and Google) several programming languages that I didn't get from high school or college and new techniques in the ones I already knew. Any "HUGE holes in [my] knowledge" that I can identify are things I "close up" as quickly as possible.

    So, would you hire me as a developer when all I have is an Associates in programming (which is, admittedly, useless) and 4 years of experience doing wiring diagrams and warehouse keeping? It sounds like you wouldn't just because I don't have a "real" degree.

    What if I told you I automated that CAD wiring diagram process and made my own inventory system, and put them both behind a nice web frontend, integrated into the company's website? But, wait, you wouldn't get that far with me. You'd just choose that other guy because he has a Bachelor's in drinking beer from a hose held by a college slut.

    I don't mean to be abrasive or personally insulting here, but I'm currently hunting for a job (believe it or not, I don't want to do CAD-and-office-monkey work for the rest of my life) and this attitude is WAY too common amongst HR feebs. (OK, so I read too many BOFH stories and use too many parentheticals as well. Sue me.)

  7. Re:It isn't all about money! by dr.badass · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is obviously outright false that nerds are not popular in secondary school because they have better things to do than spend time trying to be popular.

    Perhaps you should chalk this up to your own unique experience rather than assuming it is "obviously" false. I for one (and hordes of people on Slashdot would agree) that his essay sounds strikingly familiar. Grahams writing style seems to confound people that can't distinguish between a generalization (which isn't expected to apply universally), and an absolute statement.

    However, people with those sort of smarts are extremely rare and so this trend does not hold out hope for the vast majority of CS students much less undergrads in general.

    And that's precisely why Graham is suggesting that those few smart kids run out and start startups. Why get paid the same as the next guy if you're (potentially) ten times as productive as he is? Why not found a startup and have something that proves you're worth ten times as much to the company? Even if your company flops, it looks good on a resume.

    Heck I sure as hell wouldn't want to waste my youth as a workaholic just to end up as one of those rich bachelors at 35.

    It beats wasting your youth being a workaholic for someone else. Who says you have to waste your youth, anyway? After 16 years of schooling, 2 or 3 spent working for yourself sounds like a reasonable investment, given the potential payoff.

    Also, it's a lot easier to go from working for yourself to working for a company than vice-versa. You're going to have a harder time justifing the risk of founding your own startup when you're 35, and presumably have a lot more responsibilities, than you are when you're 22 and it really doesn't matter if you fail.

    It isn't all about accumulating the biggest bank account but also about knowing you can provide for a family, have free time and safely plan for the future.

    The question is how much time do you want to spend working to provide for a family. 30 years, or 3? Even if you waste that 3 driving a company into the ground, you've got 27 left to play it safe. The time to take chances is when you're young -- before you start worrying about those things.

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  8. On buying startups before they get big (& Goog by otisg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The timing of this is quite interesting. In one paragraph Paul Graham says:

    "What companies should do is go out and discover startups when they're young, before VCs have puffed them up into something that costs hundreds of millions to acquire."

    And what did Google do today? It bought a 2 people company.

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