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Bill Gates: Cellphone will Beat iPod

93,000 writes "CNN is running an article featuring Gates' prediction that the iPod is on the way out. From the article: 'As good as Apple may be, I don't believe the success of the iPod is sustainable in the long run.' His prediction for a successor? Mobile phones-- powered by none other than Windows Mobile 5.0, of course."

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  1. 40 Gigs of Ring Tones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well there already are phones that play MP3s, it's just that nobody wants one. I don't want to have to worry about missing a phone call because my cellphone ran out of batteries while I was listening to a Red Dwarf audio book. Until Microsoft starts making Tricorders count me out.

    But I'm sure Apple would be fools not to follow Gates' prediction, after all Microsoft is the leader in innovation. /sarcasm

  2. Sure... by Reignking · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a safe bet...if the IPod remains as it is. There's no chance that the IPod won't morph into something else in the future...

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  3. It's coming. by natrius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, it sounds a bit ridiculous, but think about it. People don't like carrying around multiple devices with them, and out of all the portable devices out there, the only one that has emerged as a necessity is the cellphone. These days, most cellphones you can buy have most of the features of the PDAs of yore. Listening to music is a fairly small feature to add to a device.

    If you look at Nokia's cell phones, about half of them have cameras. A few years ago, a camera phone would've been pretty rare. I think that's where things are heading with hard drive cell phones, and once you have a hard drive, playing music off of it is pretty simple. Sure, the iPod is fairly entrenched as of right now, but when people's iPods break, they'll already have a device that can play music, making another iPod purchase much less lucrative. As more iPods break than get replaced, these Windows Mobile phones will be waiting to take the MP3 player market away.

  4. other Gates initiatives by jtotheh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gates was saying everyone would switch to Tablet PCs a while ago. I think they had a thing called Passport that was supposed to be wildly successful as well. They're always pushing high powered high priced things in the portable/PDA universe. But sometimes something small and simple (and reliable) like an iPod mini is preferable. It does one thing and does it well.

  5. Re:It's coming? by King_TJ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, I was much more sure of this a few years ago than I am today. I say that because of 2 things.

    1. Cellphone service still hasn't really come down much in price. Years ago, everyone seemed to think the emergence of more competing services would bring monthly charges way down, but it hasn't really worked out like that. Anyone can buy themselves a music player or even a PDA and get lots of use out of it, out of the box, without subscribing to anything. Cellphones, on the other hand, are useless paperweights as soon as you stop paying for monthly service. You can argue that cellphones are much more of a "necessity" - but that really depends on who YOU are. For quite a few people, they're just a convenience - as they could wait until they got home or to work to make/return their calls.

    2. Cellphone makers have been horribly clueless in building a "convergence device" that really meets people's needs. Look at the latest "cream of the crop" PDA/camera/phones, for example. Take the Treo 650. Still so new, you can't even get on through many major carriers like Verizon, but if you do - you find out it's very fragile/breakable, not to mention still almost too large to carry around comfortably. Battery life could be better too, and as a portable music player, it doesn't hold a candle to something like even a first generation iPod. Meanwhile, like most all other camera phones, it takes lousy low-resolution photos. Where's the desirability in that??

    I think the truth is, cellphone makers are really only interested in one thing ... selling you expensive monthly service plans. The phones are just a means to an end for them, and you'll always see them crippling functionality if it allows them to charge extra for using a feature the way THEY want you to use it. Think "Jack of all trades, master of none." when you think "all in one cellphones". That's all you're gonna get.

  6. Microsoft Must Be Nervous by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Gates coming out predicting the death of his competition. MS must be getting very nervous. Xbox 2 looking to be a disaster. Longhorn still a long year away (at least). Open source systems biting MS servers in the ass.

    As to Ipods, whatever Apple's flaws, the marketing of the IPod has been a marvel to see. Apple has managed to brand themselves, and I don't think MS is going to be bashing into that market as easily as they think.

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  7. The new evangelical Bill Gates by KFury · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Has anyone noticed that Bill Gates has been talking more and more about how much better Microsoft is going to be? Their old strategy was to produce better products, or buy or undercut their competition. Now that their opposition is better and not so easily bullied, Bill's new line is 'you think that thing's great? Well sure, but it's just a toy compared to what we're going to come out with."

    The trouble is that Gates assumes that everyone else is dumb and he's smart, so no matter what someone else has done, he can start with their ideas and improve upon it. He doesn't take into account that others are doing the same thing, and that by the time the MS version gets out the door the innovator has moved on.

    Witness:

    "Google kicked our butts, but we're working on something much better. It will be out before the end of the year"

    "The BlackBerry is great but we're bringing a new approach"

    "As good as Apple may be, I don't believe the success of the iPod is sustainable in the long run. You can make parallels with computers: Apple was very strong in this field before, with its Macintosh and its graphics user interface -- like the iPod today -- and then lost its position."

    At least some journalists are taking notice:
    "Speaking before a meeting of the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, Mr. Gates took verbal shots at the Macintosh maker saying it was "great" that the general press was "writing about operating systems," but refused to respond to questions that Mac OS X Tiger came out earlier than Microsoft's next version of Windows with a number of features the software giant could only describe."
  8. One thing is being ignored... by Iron+Chef+Unix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What people seem to be forgetting is that service providers only want a phone with a music player if they can provide the music.

    Apple and Motorola have already had trouble finding takers for their iTunes capable phones because service providers want to sell music to the customer, rather than have them load it off of their computer. It doesn't gain them a whole lot if you can upload your own music.

    Plus they are selling crappy ringtones for $3 or more, so can you imagine what would happen if they sold whole songs? They would have to lower their profitable ringtone price point, or sell songs for an outrageous amount, and I'm guessing on the latter assuming they only let you buy music from them. (And probably charge you for the internet access that you will have to use to browse for songs)

    Service providers don't want you to have your own music. You hear people whine about iTunes music store, this would be Cingular Music store. $5 single songs at 64k that are DRM's to only your phone.

    And as for Bill Gates, he doesn't care about the music player. He wants you to get the phone for the music player and then be tied to microsoft products to sync it. And since you'll also have Word on your phone, you'll need it on your computer... Excel, Outlook, ... Not that there is anything wrong with this, but he is not in it for the music.

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