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Ballmer and McNealy Smiling Together

cahiha writes "Sun and Microsoft are pushing a single sign-on and identity management solution, and the Sun home page has a picture of McNealy and Ballmer smiling together. Yahoo has details on the conflict between the industry giants, and there is more information on the collaboration at the Sun press release page. The press release took place Friday morning." From the article: "The technology news, though, was overshadowed by the joint appearance of McNealy and Ballmer, who until April 2004 were bitter enemies. McNealy once referred to Microsoft's executive team of Ballmer and Bill Gates as 'Beavis and Butthead.'"

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  1. The Truth behind Microsoft. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The lack of knowledge makes people jump blindly on GNOME. GNOME is an architectual disaster, not to say that only half of the things really work as they should, stuff not quite polished or giving the user the feel of bad implementation. I don't know how people can say it's similar to Windows while it isn't and I wonder how people can say that it's customizable, while it isn't.

    I hate people who speak about GNOME like they know all about it but in reality don't know shit. I am dealing with such people nearly every day and it makes me sick. People contradicting themselves when arguing, people saying things they have no real clue about. People that simply suck. People defending GNOME for the sake of it, not willing to listen, not willing to even check out the stuff that was shown to them that suck, not even willing to understand the facts so they can be fixed afterwards. After 6 years with GNOME all this hell matured into a big pile of frustration. GNOME is frustrating, while the idea is good, the people working on it are worth nothing much, because they have no knowledge what they are doing. Not all but the majority of the people do suck. They spent time into patching stuff rather than using the ball above their neck to reconclude whether the architecture they patch makes sense to stay as it is or not. They became usability experts over night and made GNOME become a huge mess for the normal users.

    Has anyone ever tried getting serious work done with GNOME ? Ever tried to print 'this page' inside GPDF or EVINCE ? Or have you ever asked yourself why GGV doesn't offer a print dialog ? Have you ever tried copying a full recursive subdir from FTP to your desktop using Nautilus without losing files ? Have you ever tried writing a circular letter with Abiword and trying to use Evolutions addressbook ? Ever tried drawing a computer related graph or UML graph using GNOME programms ? DIA ? No shit.

    I find lot of comments quite retarded and disgusting and don't understand why people without any clue give their shit crap comments on /. or OSNews.com People should really spent some time looking at the whole aspects of GNOME, each app, what it does, what it doesn't. And not just watch some pron or listen to ripped mp3 files that's not what business is supposed to do or want to do.

    I feel sad that I need to explain this picture. Look closer to it. Now look again a bit closer to it.. No.. that's close enough..

    This screenshot explains a lot to us. We don't care for the Toolbar structure nor do we care for the Menu structure. We only look at the appearance. Note that this is just one minor example.

    We see Toolbars with ICONS only, we see Toolbars with TEXT beneath the ICONS, we see Toolbars with mixed entries as ICONS and TEXT, we see Toolbars which have a drag handle, we see Menu with drag handle, we see Toolbars without drag handle we see Menu without drag handle. Now what does us tell this ? It tells us that there is something wrong if we ask the question "why is this the case ?". We need to ask ourselves what the aim of a Desktop Environment and Developer Plattform is? The aim is to provide a set of bottom libraries (called a framework) for the developers, so they are able to create applications that feel coherent, look the same, work the same, behave the same as in a real environment. Do you want to have your kitchen filled up with different furniture or your living room ? One seat from type Y the other from type Q the other from Z. They simply do look disharmonic. This all with the GNOME HIG in mind then why do we still deal with such a mess ?

    Now we need to look a bit closer to it and we figure out that GNOME offers for historic reasons different ways to create Windows. Now imagine this, you are a user and you want for some reason ICONS only on your Toolbar or you want no images in the Menu. You go into the preferences section and select 'icons only' for Toolbars and 'no images' for Menus. Aft

  2. Single sign-on? lame. by rokzy · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    why this idea again? it was crap the first 10 times. even if you get it working perfectly, it'll still be a waste of time. it's BORING, why are you boring us, you bores.

    pool your money and buy an idea off Apple.

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  4. PEOPLE WITH MOD POINTS: CALL FOR HELP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    There's a guy currently flooding Slashdot with randomly generated crap messages with the intent of disrupting normal discussion. Click on one of the links below to see what I mean. If you have mod points left and aren't sure what to use them for, plase mod him down so we can get his network banned.

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    Your help would be very much appreciated. Thanks!

    1. Re:PEOPLE WITH MOD POINTS: CALL FOR HELP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  5. Re:Why is this headline news? by DaEMoN128 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    that was my point

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