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CA's $1mn Open-Source Bounty Results

Anil Kandangath writes "Last year, Computer Associates open sourced their Ingres DMBS and they also announced a $1mn bounty for open source conversion toolkits from other databases to Ingres. Well, the toolkits are up on SourceForge and the bounty has been won by three teams, two from India and one from New York. More details and links to the projects on the CA news page. This is one of the greatest bounties for open source software and will hopefully serve as a model for other companies taking this path of cheaper development and better code."

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  1. Surprise surprise by interlingua.ro · · Score: 5, Informative
    Contest rules:
    the contest is intended for presentation in the united states, canada (except quebec province), mexico, india, china, the united kingdom, australia and new zealand. do not proceed within this site if you are not a resident of one of these countries.
    (the lameness filter is lame)
    No wonder the winners are from India.
  2. Re:Another Attack on MS by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Doubtful. Ingres is shit. MSSQL, for all your anti-MS whining, is actually a good product. It was good way back when it was a *NIX DB called Sybase SQL Server.

    It's only insecure if you don't put a password on the sa (read admin/root) account. Which is the users perogative not to do so (I frequently don't on development systems, because I don't care), as well as the users fault if it gets exposed (as none of mine did since my whole dev environment is quarantined on it's own subnet).

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  3. Re:WTF is a mn? by generic-man · · Score: 3, Informative

    mn for million is British, commonly seen in the Financial Times (which also uses bn for billion). I imagine that it's a nod to the old British way of naming large numbers, which also included milliards (10^9) and billiards (10^15; a billion was 10^12).

    In any case, it's struck a nerve even deeper than the accounting term "$1MM" for "one million," which apparently makes SI-loving geeks' heads explode.

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  4. Topcoders vs CA Winners by Baldrson · · Score: 1, Informative
    All of the CA winners were apparently from India originally. Look at the TopCoders and tell me if you see one guy who looks like he is from India (at least originally).

    Now it might make sense that there was a somewhat different distribution for the two contests but be real... this demands an explanation.

  5. From the original submitter by alphakappa · · Score: 4, Informative

    I submitted the story, so I should take responsibility for the typos there.
    1. $1mn... stupid me, that should have been $1M.
    2. DMBS... aah..dyslexia? well, that should have been DBMS.

    Also, the reason why I said that this model will produce cheaper (obviously) and better code is that since it will be open-sourced, even if the original code might have taken shortcuts to make the deadline, it is still out there for anyone to tinker with and fix (if needed). And it almost guarantees continuous development.

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  6. Re:Another Attack on MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I believe they disallowed the blank sa password a year or so ago in a security patch. So if you want a blank sa password now you'll have to install using a password and specifically go back and change it to blank

    That said, I agree with you. SqlServer is a good product.

  7. Re:Bad news for two of the guys... by hikerhat · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well, the bounty was more than Oracle would ever pay an Indian programmer over the course of that programmer's career, so I don't think they would care if Oracle found out.

    I know I would tell my employer to shove it if I won a few hundred grand.

  8. Re:One for Access by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    y, everything is stored in a single file. Yo ucan also store everything (data/schema) on a server if you wish.

  9. Re:Another Attack on MS by hey! · · Score: 2, Informative

    MSSQL, for all your anti-MS whining, is actually a good product.

    Holy crap! A good product? Well, they have a nice management console, and a lot of features that were advanced for the days when it was the same product as Sybase.

    On the other hand, I could eat a bowl of punch card dots and shit a better SQL parser. Try solving a tricky problem with some standard but slightly complex SQL and watch it blow up. Ever try using bound parameters in subqueries? Hah! Not to mention that the T-SQL dialect is full of all kinds of random and stupid limitations.

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  10. Re:Universities? by Gribflex · · Score: 3, Informative

    You ever hear of a product called WebCT? It is a commonly used web application used for distributing course notes, grades, emails, and other related material. An overrated CMS.

    Well, here is a brief history of WebCT. (some facts may be slightly off, this is recounted from memory)

    It was originally developed at UBC (in Vancouver BC, Canada) by a prof and some students. As it was created at a public institution, using research money from the Government, the prof felt that it should be released for Free (as in beer). His thoughts were that the people had already paid for it through their taxes.

    Well, the software took off, and gained a lot of popularity. Then the University stepped in and said 'only people from BC should get this for free, it was mostly funded by provincial money', and so the software remained free for BC organizations, but was sold to people outside of BC.

    Then the software was outsourced/sold to a private company who promised to keep the same pricing model (free to BC people, not free to others). They kept up with it a bit, and maintained it a little.

    Then that software company sold WebCT again, to a different company. The second company did not promise to keep it free and started charging everyone. The second company also stopped updating the software, and did nothing to improve it. Then they increased the cost. Now they charge people way way too much for software that sucks (read: doesn't work on anything other than IE in Windows).

    And every CS student who has ever used the product claims 'I coulda made this crap for free...' and they probably could have, because it was University CS students that did make that crap, and for free.

    Every IT department however, seems to think that they can only buy software.

    OK, so if it had been released as free (as in speech) software, things would have been a little better, but still.