Posted by
CowboyNeal
on from the rubbish-listers dept.
JamesD_UK writes "mod_perl 2.0.0 has been officially released into CPAN. Enhancements over mod_perl 1 include threads support and a perl interface to the Apache Portable Runtime. More details on the release can be found on CPAN."
Re:Slashdot Offshoring Myths
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bigman2003
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· Score: 2, Insightful
Overall a post with so much truth that it hurts. But, I disagree on one statement you made:
if someone with no education can do your job cheaper, you don't deserve your job
Not every job needs to be one that requires education. Many people do great work, without education- they jut have the skill and drive to do a better job than others.
I recently went from being a non-degreed schmuck, to one with a degree. This didn't make my work any better.
-- No reason to lie.
Re:Perl a dead language?
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suso
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· Score: 2, Insightful
Just like a natural language. A language is only dead when its no longer developed or used natively. A computer language should fit a simular definition. Thus, I would say it will be a LONG time before Perl fits that definition.
Is an elephant bigger or a girafe taller?
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systems
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· Score: 5, Insightful
It's not that Perl is good or bad by itself, the question is more like, you still that Perl is still good/better in comparision to Ruby, Tcl, Python, Haskell, OCaml, Mozart/Oz and others more.
I do realize, that sometimes comparing two languages is more like asking, is an elephant bigger or a girafe taller?
But honestly, if you are still to start learning would you still have picked Perl.
I picked Tcl and I have my reasons. (Tcl/Tk, Sqlite, event driven programming and OpenAcs).
And my second choice would be ruby, I strongly like the OOP paradigm and as far as I know Ruby got better support for this paradigm, I'll probably learn ruby next, I believe one should learn a new language every now and then (it's a common advice, I didn't come up with it).
Supporting old system is good enough reason to learn Perl, but beside taking advantage of availbe libraries (and this is a HUGE good reason) I dont see any other reason to get excited over Perl.
Re:API space rename hurt
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 1, Insightful
I'd been happily using mod_perl2 since 1.99r12 or so.
But, now we have to flash-cut our production systems
Well that's what you get for using a beta release on production systems.
Re:Funny...
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Anonymous Coward
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Almost all of the comments criticizing Perl have been modded "Troll".
Maybe because this is a story about a new level release of a popular Perl module used extensively in Apache. Not a story about whether Perl is better or worse than <insert_language_here>.
merits of perl, the future of parrot
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gregorlowski
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· Score: 3, Insightful
Perl has a lot going for it. mod_perl and html::mason (used by/. and apache) together are a much more maintainable solution to large web apps than PHP, IMO. I had to maintain some really ugly old PHP code at my old job. Any language can get ugly if the coding style is ugly, but properly written html::mason does a lot more to separate Model, View, and Controller than any PHP solution I've seen.
I did a lot of perl programming back in the day. Although I still like it a lot (I think the DBI is one of the best database libraries out there), I do find myself working more and more in both python and ruby for rapid development.
If you love perl but sometimes get a headache from staring at long lines of code with lots of sigils, braces, and parentheses, take a look at ruby. From what I've seen of Perl6 so far, it will also clean up some syntax while retaining neat perlish tricks and adding a lot of advanced programming language features.
I have high hopes for the parrot project too. Maybe one day we'll all be able to write parts of our apps in ruby, python, perl6, ponie, and integrate them together on a common VM platform. I think this would be an incredible step for open source software development! Still, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for this... it looks like this scripting nirvana is still pretty far off.
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Overall a post with so much truth that it hurts. But, I disagree on one statement you made:
if someone with no education can do your job cheaper, you don't deserve your job
Not every job needs to be one that requires education. Many people do great work, without education- they jut have the skill and drive to do a better job than others.
I recently went from being a non-degreed schmuck, to one with a degree. This didn't make my work any better.
No reason to lie.
Just like a natural language. A language is only dead when its no longer developed or used natively. A computer language should fit a simular definition. Thus, I would say it will be a LONG time before Perl fits that definition.
It's not that Perl is good or bad by itself, the question is more like, you still that Perl is still good/better in comparision to Ruby, Tcl, Python, Haskell, OCaml, Mozart/Oz and others more.
I do realize, that sometimes comparing two languages is more like asking, is an elephant bigger or a girafe taller?
But honestly, if you are still to start learning would you still have picked Perl.
I picked Tcl and I have my reasons. (Tcl/Tk, Sqlite, event driven programming and OpenAcs). And my second choice would be ruby, I strongly like the OOP paradigm and as far as I know Ruby got better support for this paradigm, I'll probably learn ruby next, I believe one should learn a new language every now and then (it's a common advice, I didn't come up with it).
Supporting old system is good enough reason to learn Perl, but beside taking advantage of availbe libraries (and this is a HUGE good reason) I dont see any other reason to get excited over Perl.
I'd been happily using mod_perl2 since 1.99r12 or so.
But, now we have to flash-cut our production systems
Well that's what you get for using a beta release on production systems.
Maybe because this is a story about a new level release of a popular Perl module used extensively in Apache. Not a story about whether Perl is better or worse than <insert_language_here>.
Perl has a lot going for it. mod_perl and html::mason (used by /. and apache) together are a much more maintainable solution to large web apps than PHP, IMO. I had to maintain some really ugly old PHP code at my old job. Any language can get ugly if the coding style is ugly, but properly written html::mason does a lot more to separate Model, View, and Controller than any PHP solution I've seen.
I did a lot of perl programming back in the day. Although I still like it a lot (I think the DBI is one of the best database libraries out there), I do find myself working more and more in both python and ruby for rapid development.
If you love perl but sometimes get a headache from staring at long lines of code with lots of sigils, braces, and parentheses, take a look at ruby. From what I've seen of Perl6 so far, it will also clean up some syntax while retaining neat perlish tricks and adding a lot of advanced programming language features.
I have high hopes for the parrot project too. Maybe one day we'll all be able to write parts of our apps in ruby, python, perl6, ponie, and integrate them together on a common VM platform. I think this would be an incredible step for open source software development! Still, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for this... it looks like this scripting nirvana is still pretty far off.