Nuclear Fuel How-To
ATMosby writes "The BBC has an article that pretty much sums up everything you might need to know if you wanted to refine nuclear fuel and build some atomic weapons." From the article: "Uranium is the basic raw material of both civilian and military nuclear programmes. It is extracted from either open-cast pits or by underground mining. Although uranium occurs naturally all over the world, only a small fraction is found in concentrated ores. When certain atoms of uranium are split in a chain reaction, energy is released. This process is called nuclear fission."
When certain atoms of uranium are split in a chain reaction, energy is released. This process is called nuclear fission.
Thanks for clearing that up for us...
Big deal, my high school physics textbook had all this information as well.
I wonder how many people are going to think this is some sort of threat to 'national security.'
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. . . let's be alarmist about it, because the info didn't exist anywhere else.
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Sounds like the same thing with my girlfriend. There is a tight bond, and when she is ripped off of me, lots of energy is released.
Only in our beloved country could someone think that this set of pages "sums up everything you might need to know if you wanted to refine nuclear fuel and build some atomic weapons." The information presented is what anyone with a high-school level knowledge of science should know. It's what anyone old enough to vote should know. When Bush claimed that Saddam was buying yellowcake from Nigeria -- even if it had been true -- it should have been obvious that without a lot of additional sophisticated equipment, it was about as useless as talcum powder.
On the other hand, I did get a nice refresher on the process. You do forget a few things in 20 years. And I can use the site as a resource for my kids, since they'll be too busy being taught "Intelligent Design" to be bothered with anything as mundane as chemistry and physics.
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The article basically covers the same stuff that's been in encyclopedias for decades. I'm sure we'll get a bunch of posters nervously posting about how irresponsible it is to release this info, but it's hardly ground breaking.
The better informed the public is to how these things work, the better off we'll be in participating in our national policies. Saying that the information should be restricted is akin to arguing in favor of 'security through obscurity'. I argue that if you criticize both the BBC article and Microsoft for their security policies, then you're exhibiting traits of hypocrisy.
In the end, the part of the equation that's required is the presence of uranium. It's hard to get. It's even harder to mine/refine, especially in secret.
Sorry, but that site isn't even close to "everything you might need to know" about building a Bomb. That's more like the 5 minute capsule summary. If you really want to know everything about building a Bomb but don't want to get a security clearance, the best place to look is Carey Sublette's Nuclear Weapon Archive. It's amazing just how much non-classified information it contains.
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-Enrichment levels for uranium meant for power plants is about 20% U-235, not 3%.
-The gun and implosion types of bombs aren't tied to the fissile type. You could use either type with either plutonium or uranium.
-They didn't mention confinement of the reaction on the gun type of bomb. If you don't try to hold it together with a heavy bomb casing, the bomb will blow itself apart as soon as fission begins, resulting in a really low yield.
If you were to try to build a bomb from these instructions, it wouldn't work.
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I believe we use gaseous diffusion.
They could pretty much dispense with steps 2 and onwards. They'd probably just pack the nuclear fuel round some conventional explosives, oil and ammonium nitrate mix and contaminate as large an area as possible. The centre of New York, Washinton, London is some very expensive real estate.
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This handy article on what to do with your plutonium once you've refined it. A must have for any organization interested in building such a device...
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The Beeb could have at least provided a translation of the article in Farsi. :~)
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of the decline of /. into a cespool of sensationalist pablum. This reads like it was published by the National Enquirer - not a "news for nerds" site. (maybe a 'news for n00bs' site)
Not news, not newsworthy, not even mildly interesting to anyone who was awake in 6th grade science class.
What's next? A front page story on the dangers and publich health threat of dihydrogen oxide?
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As many others have noted, the information in the BBC article is readily available from numerous sources. For a good understanding of the concepts and dangers, I recommend The Curve of Binding Energy by John McPhee.
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I guess the slashdot editor thought it was a slow news day or something....
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C'mon guys, this information is both old and public, and it's about as useful for making bombs as Monty Python's infamous guide to flute playing (blow in one end and run your fingers up and down the holes).
Let's have more stories about nude pictures on Yahoo!
"The BBC has an article that pretty much sums up everything you might need to know if you wanted to refine nuclear fuel and build some atomic weapons."
This is true, in the same way
"Everything you need to know how to build a car is that pistons get pushed down by gas exploding which turns the crankshaft which turns the wheels"
is everything you need to know to build a car. Or
"Think of space as a sheet with masses as balls"
Is everything you need to know about general relativity
A general overview of anything is usually quite simple however in practise building a nuclear bomb is pretty difficult.
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If you want plutonium, you need to have a working fission reactor, which ostensibly makes you subject to regular inspection (and is hard to hide). If you want Highly Enriched Uranium, the enrichment process requires things like production scale mass spectrometers, giant centrifuges, and nasty chemicals (uranium hexafluoride, anyone?)- basically, a large amount of equipment that serves little other obvious purpose.
Of course, what we've seen with North Korea in particular is that the rest of the world knowing you're try to build nukes isn't always a deterrent to building nukes anymore, and in fact makes a handy bargaining chip where you agree to stop making plutonium in exchange for something you want, and then once you get it, continue making plutonium anyway.
"FDA staff reviewers expressed concern about the number of patients who were left out of the study because they died."
They left out the address of AQ Khan, who runs a mailorder nukes biz in Pakistan. Just put an account# from Libya, Iran or North Korea, or maybe Saudi Arabia on your order, and you can get all the tutorial you need. You'll still have to get the fuel from somewhere, but there's plenty of Russian, Kazakh or even good ol' Italian mafia dealers. Try the Carlyle Group - they might be your one-stop-shop, including the negotiations that signal your initiation into the nuclear club.
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Only U-233 or U-235 is useful for fission reactions. While U-238 can fission, it requires at least 5 MeV of kinetic energy from an incident neutron, while U-233 and U-235 require no energy. This makes U-238 fairly useless for fission except in the case where plutonium is made (U-238 + n -> (U-239)* -> Np-239 -> Pu-239). Pu-239 requires no energy to fission (and this is general of all heavy nuclides with odd atomic masses).
U-235 is 0.65% naturally occuring, and U-238 is 99.35% naturally occuring. In order to make a reactor undergo a self-sustaining fission reaction, the concentration of U-235 in increased (enriched). This has to be done for reactors and bombs (though there are methods to make a self-sustaining reaction with natural fuel--very large reactors). Since U-235 requires no energy from the neutron to undergo fission, a slow neutron that spends more time passing by the nucleus will cause fission to occur more often. This is why nuclear reactors are moderated (typically with water, heavy water, or graphite).
If a nuclear bomb were moderated, the time to moderate (slow down the neutron to thermal energies) would allow heat transfer to occur. This would expand the bomb and destroy its geometry bringing the fission reaction to a halt. For this reason, nuclear bombs are designed to operate on fast fission reactions. This is also why a nuclear reactor cannot explode like a nuclear bomb.
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Farnsworth Fusor. More on Wikipedia.
Buildable and safely operable by any grad student. A non-fusing version (using only hydrogen) that serves as a proof-of-concept could be built and safely demonstrated by a group of bright, mechanically-inclined, and well-equipped high school student.
If, by "working", you mean "produces more energy than it takes to operate", the Farnsworth Fusor doesn't work. If, however, you mean "produces a neutron flux whose presence can only be explained by fusion", it works just fine.
"The Curve of Binding Energy" with Ted Taylor walking John McPhee through how much damage you could do for surprisingly little effort. Including a tour around southern Manhattan and speculation on using a poorly made nuke to topple a World Trade tower into the river...
That book inspired...
"Mushroom" by John Aristotle Philips about his paper at Princeton describing how to build a bomb. A student of Freeman Dyson, he got far more info than he ever dreamed he could get. The very impressive paper saved some less than stellar grades, and generated quite a buzz, more than a few cloaky phone calls and IIRC the paper got classified by the gummint.
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"How To Be A Gynacologist." (BIG geek appeal.)
But the next program in the series is a bit of a let down. Its on "How to reconcile the Russians and the Chinese"
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Now we need to enrich the stuff first. These guys http://www.urenco.com/ do it for a living and have a few nifty articles on centrifuges.
We also need a suitable boiler to make the good stuff(tm). My personal favorite is the Canadian (take that you pacifists) Candu design http://www.nuclearfaq.ca/.
This should get you in the WMD business in no time. Now don't try this at home unless you've got your own TV-show...
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During the Manhattan Project, Robert Serber periodically gave lectures on basic fission bomb physics to newly arrived scientists. Those lecture notes were published by Univ. of California Press in 1992 as "The Lost Alamos Primer: The First Lectures on How to Build an Atomic Bomb"; it's still in print. You'll need at least sophomore-level physics to understand it.
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The BBC has an article that pretty much sums up everything you might need to know if you wanted to refine nuclear fuel and build some atomic weapons.
Should read "...explains nothing of what you might need to know..."
--Chag