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History of Netscape and Mozilla

Sabah Arif writes "Netscape was there at the beginning of the internet boom. In 1996, the company controlled 90 percent of the browser market, but now its usershare is in the single digits. The spawn of Netscape, Firefox, has never been more popular, and is poised to beat Microsoft in the browser market. Read the history of Netscape and Mozilla at MLAgazine."

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  1. Please cut out the mindless propaganda. by jolyonr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The spawn of Netscape, Firefox, has never been more popular, and is poised to beat Microsoft in the browser market.

    I'm a firefox fanatic, it's without doubt the superior browser. But spouting such mindless rubbish as that comment doesn't do anyone any good. In my mind 'Poised to beat' would be when Firefox is at 49% browser share, not the less than 10% (compared to 80%+ for IE). Keep the propaganda out of news items please, and let Firefox promote itself by simply being the better browser.

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    1. Re:Please cut out the mindless propaganda. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Netscape sealed the deal when they waited forever to release Netscape 6 (they skipped the 5 generation, allowing Microsoft to get a further leg up), which when finally released turned out to be the least stable browser ever concieved by man (for reasons unknown Netscape dropped their code base and wrote 6 from scratch - the successor to Netscape, Mozilla, was based on the actually usable 4.x codebase)

      That is completely wrong. Go read the article.

  2. Just the facts, ma'am by coupland · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Firefox, has never been more popular, and is poised to beat Microsoft in the browser market.

    Come on, folks, I'm a rabid Firefox fan and even *I* know this kind of rhetoric doesn't belong on the front page...

  3. browser dominance by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 1, Insightful

    90% 85% 95% .. doesn't matter. The market share IE enjoys in no way reflective of it's quality. I know a bunch of supply-sidings free market zealots on slashdot will moan about it, "Let the market decide which is the better *product*." If that were the case here, IE would have a 1% share of the browser market.

    Alas, we live in the twilight zone where Microsoft gives away it's flagship product and that's called Capitalism!

    1. Re:browser dominance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, capitalism includes the right to price one's product as one sees fit. So now you want it to be against the law to give away free stuff?

      What's next on your agenda, banning charity?

      People like IE and don't care enough to look for alternatives .. quit trying to shove your "solutions" down people's throats.

      Most Microsoft users can switch to an alternative operating system without being summarily executed by the Secret Police.

      Alternatives to Microsoft exist and aren't being hidden under a rock.

      People don't want them .. deal with it.

  4. Ready to take the crown ? by cyberfunk2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is firefox ready to take the browsing crown ?

    Not quite I say.. there's unfortunately still a few things holding it back. As I see it, the following hold FF back from being the dominant browser (note: not all these are things that are FF/Mozilla Fndations' fault).

    IE is the default browser in all windows distros, unfortunately, this means IE has a defacto advantage, and a huge one at that, as many people dont even know the alternative exists.

    On the same note: Many people dont know about FF. Things like spread firefox and word of mouth, and positive press are helping this problem in a big way. Now even some of my non-tech savvy friends proclaim "I'll never touch explorer again, I love the 'Fox". Firefox has become enough of a better browser that they see that as superior.

    Stubborn IT policies that refuse to consider new applications, namely a new default browser for companies. I know my school has finally seen the light and included FF as an option on the default install on all publicly available computers. But it's still not on the desktop, hidden away in the programs menu. We need the make it just as easy to launch FF as to launch IE (I know a default install of FF puts a desktop icon there, but we need to get IT departments to leave it there).

    The extremely techincally illiterate who hold corporate power. That is, those upper level managers who have only ever known IE, and are terrified to use anything else because of those viruses and worms they keep hearing about. If they're intelligent, they'll listen to smart IT advice, however, we know how often upper management likes to think they know best outside their area.

    I'm sure there are areas that i've missed, but these are some of the problem's facing down the 'Fox as I see it.

  5. IE was the best browser for a while by tjstork · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Netscape had a great lead in 1996 but when IE 4.0 came out, with its far superior Java scripting capabilities, Netscape was junk. IE 5.0 only furthered that gap. And whatever happened to Netscape 5? Hmmm.

    Bundling aside, IE crushed Netscape because IE was the better browser.

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  6. Re:How about taking apple webcore by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 2, Insightful
    webcore they allow to freely download so anybody could download that and work on a better browser. and if the current lgpl violations can be worked out it could make yet another very good alternative to IE so together firefox netscape mozilla safari and other webcore browsers could take IE market share

    Does your typing involve conscious thought, or merely involuntary, peristaltic regurgitation of mutated Slashdot memetic material? ;-)
    1. Webcore is indeed a very nice HTML renderer, but it's definitely not a whole web browser. You'd need to add a user interface, HTTP mechanisms, display code and whatnot, as well as integrate plugin code, Javascript etc.
    2. There are no LGPL violations, merely some KDE developers frustrated that while everyone thought there was loads of happy, shiny collaboration going on between them and Apple, there wasn't.
    3. You're not going to magically acquire another 10% of the market for another Win32 browser unless it does something remarkably new and/or different. Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape and Opera are effectively niche markets already, sadly.

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  7. Re:How about taking apple webcore by masklinn · · Score: 2, Insightful
    webcore they allow to freely download so anybody could download that and work on a better browser. and if the current lgpl violations can be worked out it could make yet another very good alternative to IE so together firefox netscape mozilla safari and other webcore browsers could take IE market share
    Right, and Webcore isn't platform specific and does not use MacOSX specific features that ain't replicated anywhere else, which means that it'll be easy to port Safari to W32 machines...
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