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School-Lunch Monitoring System for Parents

karvind writes "According to Yahoo, three school districts in the Atlanta area last week became the first in the country to offer the parental-monitoring option of an electronic lunch payment system called Mealpay.com. The system was initially designed as a convenient way to make sure children bought lunch without worrying that lunch money would get lost, spent on other things or stolen. But on parent's request online meal-monitoring option was added and now parents can see all of a student's lunch purchases."

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  1. YRO? by EvilCabbage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    12 year olds are entitled to many rights.

    One of them shouldn't be hiding your lunchtime purchases with money given to you by your parents.

    Where is the violation of rights here? The parents want to know their money is being spent in a wise manner.

    1. Re:YRO? by Soko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh yeah, I'm 21. But I remember.

      And obviously not a parent. There's nothing wrong with having this as an option, as long as the child is informed. If you can trust your 12 year old to make reasonable choices - like not spending thier lunch money on crap it wasn't intended for - there's no problem, and you won't need this service. If you aren't sure - you can check that the child is doing what they tell you. A parent's main means of knowing that thier child is growing up well is reliable information about the childs activities, which is getting harder to come by due to "children's rights".

      A 12 year old has a right to all the privacy I as a parent feel safe giving them. Each child is different - some may need this in order for parents to get the information they need in order to help thier children grow up healthy and happy. What if the child is being bullied out of thier lunch money or something? This would be a good way to find out and remedy the situation.

      Dignity and responsibility don't instantly come at 18 (My 12 year old is actually more responsible that my 22 year old), but when one can actually handle all that life can throw at you. Before then, we parents want to be able to prepare our kids so they can do that.

      Soko

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    2. Re:YRO? by tricorn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I apparently read more than you did (in fact, I read it in the magazine several days ago, which is how I knew that the article existed). They take to task the whole BMI method of designating people as "obese", show that the numbers showing how much lifespan is lost due to obesity are essentially fabricated (in part by ignoring the dangers of being underweight), show that the BMI "overweight" and "mild obesity" range actually appears to be healthier, that obesity in kids doesn't seem to be linked that closely with incidence of diabetes.

      I also challenge the accuracy of the "fact" given in the post I was responding to: "for the first time in over a hundred years the life expectancy is decreasing in the USA, due to obesity". The rate of increase is slowing, but it hasn't stopped, turned around and started decreasing.

      I'm not saying kids shouldn't eat right, but the article brings up some significant problems with the whole "epidemic of obesity is killing us all" thing.

  2. Simply Solution by Adrilla · · Score: 4, Funny

    Canibalism. They wont ring that up on their silly machines.

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  3. Good idea. by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a great idea. We all know how well things usually turn out when personal information about underage students is put online by their school district.

    Not to mention, I wouldn't be surprised if more than 50% of the students' parents don't pay for their lunches and they are on a reduced/free lunch program funded by tax-payers.

    You have to teach students to eat well before you can expect them to eat well. I'm tired of seeing parents who only make a home cooked meal once a week, live off of hamburger helper and delivery pizza, send the kid to grade school and middle school where the provided lunches are fried everything (hamburgers, hamburger pizza, spaghetti with melted cheese, cheese sandwiches, hotdogs, weiner wraps, macaroni and cheese, fish sticks, chicken nuggets and so on) - and some how expect them to make the same wise meal choices that YOU don't make for YOURSELF or FOR THEM or that their SCHOOLS have made for them thus far.

    The fact is that children will have a better appetite for better things if they're used to them. A kid who grows up on steak, potatos and veggies will prefer that whereas a kid that grew up on over-salted, over-sugared, mostly-synthetic boxed/pre-packaged/ready-mix/vending machine/deep fried/fast food/delivery/microwavable/tv dinner foods will prefer those types of foods.

    But hey, if parents don't want to take responsibility for it - that's all good.

  4. it's about time... by bnitsua · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am glad to see more stories targeting the average age of slashdot users.

  5. A lament for the spirit of man by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful


    School is a public place. Parents (whose money is being spent) probably do have the right to know how that money is spent, and if it brings to light that a child is being bullied out of lunch-money sooner, that can't be anything other than a good thing.

    But I worry about the seeds being sown, and the harvest we will reap. When a child is constantly being placed under surveillance in different circumstances, and knowingly so, it will tend towards the 'norm' of that child's cultural world. It will become accepted rather than questioned - what are the benefits? What are the costs? Is it worth it ? I fear for a future when the question is not 'why are we under surveillance?', but 'why are you not watching out for XXX?'.

    "They" (and by 'they', I mean 'we') are sucking the lifeblood out of personal freedom, one pinprick and one drop of blood at a time. More and more freedom is being just handed over, and the responsibility that went with that freedom dies a little too. Without the responsibility for actions taken, there is no choice in life - welcome to the herd mentality, and kiss goodbye to that magnificence of spirit - individuality.

    Quite a leap from telling parents about their childrens lunching habits, but as Francis Xavier said "Give me the children until they are seven and anyone may have them afterwards". Young minds are receptive minds, and missionaries tend to understand indoctrination better than most.

    Simon

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    1. Re:A lament for the spirit of man by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When a child is constantly being placed under surveillance in different circumstances, and knowingly so, it will tend towards the 'norm' of that child's cultural world.

      Bingo!

      The danger of this kind of routine dismissal of the kid's privacy, is that when he grows up, he will not consider it a violation of his rights if the state wants to do the same things his parents and schools did to him all his life.

      -jcr

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  6. And? by oGMo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Is this supposed to be bad? Are we not encouraging parents to actually parent, by monitoring their children's activities, on, say, the internet, or what games they play? Why then would monitoring a major contributing factor to the physical health and well-being of the child be bad?

    Perhaps this article, then, is not intended that way, and is placed under YRO for some other reason.

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  7. WTF? by EvilCabbage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Why don't we simply pre-emptively incarcerate all kids in padded cells?"

    Seriously, what the fuck is it with these "all or nothing" attitudes?

    They're children. They need to be treated as such, but always to a point.
    You can't wrap them up in a blanket of ignorance, but at the same time you can't give them free reign to run their own lives when they're barely into the double digit age bracket.

  8. getting (too) accustomed by l3v1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My problem here, besides finding the whole idea quite aberrated and obnoxious, is that these kids will grow up being monitored with gps, cells, what they eat, how they spend, what they do on the net, etc. etc., and - god forbid - they will grow so used to being monitored that when grown up they will accept more easily all the stuff their government is even now trying to impose.

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  9. Here's a Radical Idea... by fuzzybunny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...for you parents who don't have problems with controlling every aspect of your child's life at school, since those of us without sprogs obviously don't have a clue about parenting.

    It's called "taking 5 minutes in the morning to make them a sandwich." School lunch in US schools is utter slop anyway, in most cases.

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