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Debian 3.0r6 Released
Polkan Garcia writes "The Debian group has released an update to the 'Woody' distribution of the popular GNU/Linux OS. From the site: 'This is the sixth and final update of Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (codename 'woody') which mainly adds security updates to the stable release, along with a few corrections to serious problems. Those who frequently update from security.debian.org won't have to update many packages and most updates from security.debian.org are included in this update.' More good news: r6 is the final update of woody, the new stable release is coming."
before the usual rants about debian begin....
let he who has donated at least one line of code, cast the first stone...
What the hell do you mean, finally? The last update to Woody was April 16th of this year.
Unless you know what you're talking about, please don't try to troll. It just makes you look bad.
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As much heat as Woody gets from the Slashdot crowd, I think it is a good idea to have a stable release that doesn't update very quickly. Keep in mind that, as "old" as Debian is, it was released in 2002. It is no older than Windows XP (2001-2002 release) and is a good deal younger than Windows 2000 (1999 release). One of the servers I have an account on is a RedHat 7.2 machine, which is of the same era as the first Woody release. While I develop on Fedora Core three, I make sure my software compiles as is on a RedHat 6.2 system (2000 era).
For servers and corporate desktops, an update every three years is a frequent update. I am glad that Debian has been current with security updates on this three-year-old release; I would rather have that than the updgrade treadmill Fedora has me on. (The Fedora Legacy project seems to be comatose) In fact, I'm going off of the treadmill--my next Linux will be CentOS (a no-cost generic clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux) which will allow me to have sane updates--once a year or two instead of once every six months.
Apart from anything else, from now on if an employee suddenly discovers a product that at a stroke will double productivity, halve costs and save small kittens from drowning, do you think they're going to tell you about it? No, they're going to hide behind conformity, in the hope that that way they'll keep their jobs.
Congrats, you've singlehandedly halted improvement of your company's computing infrastructure. I'm sure it'll mean far less trouble for you, right up to the point where an innovative competitor buys you up and fires everyone.
Definitely not, as Debian and other distros rely too much on their repositories. It's what they believe attracts people to their version of GNU/Linux.
They're afraid of a cross platform installer because then their distro won't be "special".
Actually, I've been diddling with Debian (testing) on the desktop, and I find it a lot more amenable to running out-of-the-box than, say, any recent Red Hat release. Just apt-get new applications and go. Simple. The thoughtful design behind Debian makes installing a wide range of packages really smooth.
"The reason why there are so many based on Debian is because the Debian project leaders suck huge. RH may have sold its soul to the devil, but Debian is like the really promising super smart kid who found the joys of weed, and spent the rest of his life in a basement smoking dope, watching tripped out screensavers, and eating brownies.
Debian was great. Now it's just an old decrepid remnant of its former self. Many others have picked up in its wake though, so it's all good. Nothing lost, and all to gain!"
You're out of your mind. Debian is well designed, and that IS the reason other distros use it as a base. If it sucked as a whole, they would only use parts instead of using it virtually intact with nothing more than some individual configurations and a couple of custom packages. Debian is one of, if not THE largest single software project in the world. You think it's easy to keep up with something that huge? Exactly HOW is Debian "an old decrepid remnant of its former self"? Have the servers that run it suddenly started hobbling along or something? Not the last time I checked anyway. The #1 reason I see from the people for whom Debian is actually geared towards that are eager for a new stable version is so they can bring in new hardware. It's certainly not so they can have the latest version of KDE or anything. Those that do are wanting the latest and greatest bleeding edge desktop distro (note, this is not the target market of Debian by a long shot). So they went to check out Ubuntu. You think its decrepid too? No? Well how about this, all but a handfull (and a very small handfull at that) of packages that are in Ubuntu are *older* than what is currently in Sarge. So Sarge won't ship with the buggy xserver that's in Ubuntu. To me that's a good thing, how bout you? So Gnome won't have the 3rd menu item on the taskbar. So frickin what? Debian IS great. Doesn't HAVE to have a new release every 6 months, or even every year. Guess what? That's a GOOD thing. It's a core server distro (that actually provides a decent, solid and reasonably up to date desktop.. good for workstations, maybe not so good for the bleeding edge software snob). What's the comment about "picked up in it's wake".. last I checked, the child distros still depend HEAVILY on current Debian development.
BTW, I just saw the most inane thing ever on your website, the thing about the code in the ad which was obviously meant as a joke. Dude, IT'S A JOKE. Get it? Joke, as in supposed to be funny? As can be seen from you, seeming to take it all too serious...
"If you're a programmer you'll probably notice immediately that the code on the ad is totally invalid in any language. Not only that but it's formatted horribly!
I find this hilarious. No self respecting programmer would sign up with a company that gets something that wrong. And no self respecting company should hire someone who's that stupid.
Is this really the state of things? I guess I already have my answer."
Man, get out an have some fresh air or something.. or do you really have that terribly impaired sense of humor?