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Morse Coders Beat SMSers

dgnicholson writes "Jay Leno did a text off between two text messengers and two Morse coders. The Morse coders handily beat the young whippersnappers with time to spare. It might be a fun phone app to make a Morse code messenger, if you kept your headset in and had an external sender, could be interesting. Perhaps a Morse code Skype device."

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  1. Well, yeah. by msmercenary · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Morse code was created for the purpose of sending text over REALLY low bandwidth. Cell phones were created to talk to people. The idea of entering text with a numeric keypad was a wart they hung on the side of the phone when they realized that a full keyboard wouldn't work.

    Personally, I just don't understand the appeal of text messaging. Maybe that marks me as an old fogey (27), but I just don't need my tendonitis to get any worse, TYVM.

    1. Re:Well, yeah. by JanneM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm an older fogey (36), and I usually only use messaging. The reason? I'm often using the phone in noisy, bustling environments (city streets, office landscape, robotics lab), and I'm an old fogey - which means my hearing is not what it used to be. Talking on a phone is frankly often fairly difficult, and you disturb other people no matter how low-key you try to be.

      With text messaging I can get or send info no matter how noisy the environment is (try understanding spoken directions while standing on a street corner in Osaka) and whatever info I receive I can refer to over and over again (my memory has never been too hot either).

      I still want the ability to call or receive calls, but my preferred channel clearly is text.

      --
      Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
    2. Re:Well, yeah. by Alioth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Texting avoids the "HELLO, I'M ON THE TRAIN!" syndrome. It is quiet (silent, apart from the beep when a message comes in) and doesn't disturb people around you. You're hardly an old fogey, I'm 6 years older than you but almost exclusively use text messaging - I really don't like using phones, and my mobile has a full QWERTY keyboard so I'd rather text.

  2. Re:no surprise... by dougmc · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ... and the SMSers were teens.
    To be fair, the sending teen (the receiving teen needed no special skills beyond being able to read) had some sort of record at SMS sending speed or something. I seem to recall doing the math and finding that he sent at 30 wpm -- which is pretty impressive, considering! (Of course, the world record for morse code sending and receiving by humans is around 75 wpm.)

    Though he also had the crappy cell phone keyboard (which was probably the point), and the sending ham had a high quality paddle that by itself was bigger than the guy's phone ...

    AD5RH

  3. Not a true test. by Domini · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Firstly, the morse code they used was the final optimised product. It basically uses huffman-like compression for english only. Thus texting other languages using morse would not be so efficient.

    Secondly they used TAP method which is outdated and inefficient. Predictive text input is much faster. Also, the US is not the big SMS country. It hardly has GSM! More people still use outdated devices like pagers.

    Thirdly they also tested the transport medium. An SMS may be relayed faster via different networks (sometimes immediate) and can be re-read if something was missed (unless ticker-tape is used). This is not fair, as for very long distance morse messages one can have intermediaries as well which would lengthen the process considerably.

    Fourthly, most people cannot send morsecode while receiving it, thus also making asynchronous conversation slower. (And you cannot receive morse from multiple sources sil

    I've recently been to Japan and had the rare privelege seeing a teenage school-girl on a Train sitting and texting on two phones at the same time! Beat that!

  4. Re:incorporated functionality by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "dit dit dit - dah dah - dit dit dit" actually.


    But what you may not know is that the really long Morse SMS tone on Nokia phones says "connecting people"

  5. Re:What you say??? by codemangler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If Morse code is so much better than using text messaging, why doesn't everyone do it?

    Rhetorical question. The answer, obviously, is that it is a pain in the ass to learn and gain any serious encoding/decoding speed.

    It's a lot like typing (which most of us take for granted). Objectively, it is the fastest way to transcribe data. However, it requires quite a bit of practice to get up to a level fast enough to make it better and more useful than normal writing.


    No, it's not the fastest way to send data. For example you can type faster than you can send morse. The reason the morse coders won was because of the tools they used. A morse code key, which is an electrical switch, is optimized for extremely short contacts. It also can be fine-tuned for individual senders. Phone touchpads were originally designed for entering only short phone numbers, so speed was not really an issue. It was more important to prevent the user from dialing a wrong number. So there's a lot more resistance built in to the phone keys.

    The results would have been closer if the morse coders had to use a cell phone to send their code, maybe just pressing the 1 button on and off. I think in that case the texters would have won.

  6. I agree by Ogemaniac · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I live in Japan, and probably send twenty text messages for each call that I make. Though I must admit, the Japanese software seems better than what I remember in the states. The word-completion is usally really clever if I am typing in Japanese. Also, typing in Japanese is intrinsically easier because in general, each kana corresponds to two English letters. I wish people would use this service more in the states, for all of the reasons people have been mentioning. Despite the enormous number of cell phones in Japan relative to the US, you are forced to listen to people yapping away on them far, far less often. This might be my favorite element of Japanese society, I swear.

  7. Re:morse code over skype by shreevatsa · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ah, you mean like this?
    #define DIT (
    #define DAH )
    #define __DAH ++
    #define DITDAH *
    #define DAHDIT for
    #define DIT_DAH malloc
    #define DAH_DIT gets
    #define _DAHDIT char
    _DAHDIT _DAH_[]="ETIANMSURWDKGOHVFaLaPJBXCYZQb54a3d2f16g7c 8a90l?e'b.s;i,d:"
    ;main DIT DAH{_DAHDIT
    DITDAH _DIT,DITDAH DAH_,DITDAH DIT_,
    DITDAH _DIT_,DITDAH DIT_DAH DIT
    DAH,DITDAH DAH_DIT DIT DAH;DAHDIT
    DIT _DIT=DIT_DAH DIT 81 DAH,DIT_=_DIT
    __DAH;_DIT==DAH_DIT DIT _DIT DAH;__DIT
    DIT'\n'DAH DAH DAHDIT DIT DAH_=_DIT;DITDAH
    DAH_;__DIT DIT DITDAH
    _DIT_?_DAH DIT DITDAH DIT_ DAH:'?'DAH,__DIT
    DIT' 'DAH,DAH_ __DAH DAH DAHDIT DIT
    DITDAH DIT_=2,_DIT_=_DAH_; DITDAH _DIT_&&DIT
    DITDAH _DIT_!=DIT DITDAH DAH_>='a'? DITDAH
    DAH_&223:DITDAH DAH_ DAH DAH; DIT
    DITDAH DIT_ DAH __DAH,_DIT_ __DAH DAH
    DITDAH DIT_+= DIT DITDAH _DIT_>='a'? DITDAH _DIT_-'a':0
    DAH;}_DAH DIT DIT_ DAH{ __DIT DIT
    DIT_>3?_DAH DIT DIT_>>1 DAH:'\0'DAH;return
    DIT_&1?'-':'.';}__DIT DIT DIT_ DAH _DAHDIT
    DIT_;{DIT void DAH write DIT 1,&DIT_,1 DAH;}

    The greatest thing is, this program actually converts what you type to Morse code.
  8. The text messaging contestants sucked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Looking at the video, it takes the Morse guys approximately 20 seconds to transmit the message. I can also gather that the text message was typed in without predictive text input, which is significantly slower. I just did a test myself and was able to write the given sentence in 15 seconds with predictive text input, and I'm not even a particularly fast texter. Of course you still need to add network delay (+ SMS center delays) to that, so it wasn't a fair comparison to begin with. But Morse code isn't that fast, really.