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Apple Switching To Intel Chips In 2006

telstar writes "According to C|Net, Apple has officially decided to drop IBM, and will use Intel processors starting in their '06 line of systems. This change was rumored last month. The announcement is expected Monday at Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference in San Francisco, at which Chief Executive Steve Jobs is giving the keynote speech." From the article: "Apple successfully navigated a switch in the 1990s from Motorola's 680x0 line of processors to the Power line jointly made by Motorola and IBM. That switch also required software to be revamped to take advantage of the new processors' performance, but emulation software permitted older programs to run on the new machines."

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  1. Hello Pear! by eltoyoboyo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks like they will want to snap up a bunch of developers from the PearPC project!

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  2. x86 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    so... OS X86. Maybe it'll be called Chameleon instead of these cat names? crossing platforms, it will be!

  3. Must be a slow news week at CNET... by MuckSavage · · Score: 5, Funny

    Really, this has been on the table many times. When will this rumor die? Oh, and on tuesday, Steve will announce that Disney is purchasing Apple.

    1. Re:Must be a slow news week at CNET... by wootest · · Score: 2, Funny

      You're all wrong - Apple is just going out of business as usual. :)

  4. Hell has frozen over. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hell has officially frozen over. My god they sold their souls.

  5. It's going to be a terribly difficult rewrite... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...for Apple as all their current operating systems depend on correct floating-point results.

  6. Re:You heard it here first by cxreg · · Score: 4, Funny

    WINE is not an emulator! It's a translation layer, it's totally useless on a non-x86 platform.

    Thanks for the insight. Did you happen to miss the entire point of this slashdot post?

  7. Re:The sky is falling! by amliebsch · · Score: 2, Funny

    So Apple is the Bizarro Microsoft.

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  8. Say it ain't so! by fprefect · · Score: 2, Funny

    AsSeenOnTV, please tell us it's not true!

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  9. Re:The sky is falling! by Naikrovek · · Score: 5, Funny

    you know the world is coming to an end when the best golfer is black, the best rapper is white, apple goes to x86 and microsoft goes powerpc.

    good thing i bought armageddon insurance!!

  10. Well spank my ass and call me Judy! by Lisandro · · Score: 5, Funny

    John C. Dvorak actually predicted something that happend!.

    I'm scared. Hold me.

    1. Re:Well spank my ass and call me Judy! by kuzb · · Score: 3, Funny

      No problem, Judy.

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  11. Re:MacOSX on x86? by vocaro · · Score: 4, Funny

    if Apple get's it's own chipset

    ERROR: unnecessary apostrophe overflow

  12. I'll eat my hat... by kuwan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll eat my hat if Jobs announces a switch to Intel chips (and I'll even be there at the Keynote). The most glaring giveaway in the article that this will NOT happen is this:

    Apple plans to move lower-end computers such as the Mac Mini to Intel chips in mid-2006 and higher-end models such as the Power Mac in mid-2007, sources said.

    So Apple's going to force their Developers, the people who need to have the latest, greatest and fastest machines, to use Mac Minis to develop their software on? Not in a billion years!

    There's no way in Hell that Apple could ever get away with switching low-end Mac Minis first and then top of the line Power Macs a year later. No developer is going to torture himself on a Mac Mini when they could be developing on a Dual 2.7 GHz (or higher) G5. Sure there are those that will say that Apple will let you compile on a G5 and then just test on a Mini - that will never happen either. It would increase development time by at least a factor of 2 and probably more. This would effectively kill the Mac platform.

    If Apple would ever consider this (which I doubt, AMD is far better than Intel and I believe the PPC platform has a far brighter future than the x86 platform, just look at all the next-gen gaming consoles) then they would need to transition their high-end machines first if not at the same time as everything else.

    Not to mention the fact that SSEx pales in comparison to Altivec. Why does this matter? Because Apple has invested heavily in vectorized libraries, especially CoreImage. CoreImage & Quartz 2D Extreme rely heavily on Altivec when you don't have a graphics card capable of running them. SSE just wouldn't be able to cut it. Also, what's Apple to do with all their engineers that have so much experience with PPC and Altivec? I could go on and on.

    It would take 4-5 years or more for Apple to make the transition and optimize OS X on Intel to where it is today (Apple might have a version of OS X running on x86, but I'm sure that it's nowhere near as optimized as Tiger is for PPC). Does Apple really want to give Microsoft that much time to catch up? I think not! They'd much rather run circles around Microsoft. It will be a cold day in Hell before this happens.

  13. OH GOD FUCK YES MOD PARENT UP by adpowers · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sorry, I just had to follow the trend.

  14. Re:This obviously means no Powerbook G5s by wootest · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean, that things almost a laptop already!

    And a bike is almost a motorcycle.

  15. Re:MacOSX on x86? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    ERROR: unnecessary apostrophe overflow

    Dude, if you're going to be reading slashdot you'd better make your parser a little more robust than that when handling malformed input.

  16. Re:Any Evidence At All? by scsscs · · Score: 3, Funny

    CNet is not a rumor site. If they did not have a very creditable source they would not report it.

  17. Re:The sky is falling! by pboulang · · Score: 4, Funny

    Holy Crap! Vijay Singh is black?!!?

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  18. Re:The sky is falling! by pchan- · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"?
    Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath-of-God type stuff.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
    Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
    Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...
    Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave.
    Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.

  19. Re:It was only a joke by pboulang · · Score: 4, Funny

    Holy Crap! Tupac was black?!!?

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  20. Re:Apple vs IBM by bokane · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Inapt."

  21. Re:April Fools? Right? by SEE · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's their best processor? The Pentium M, aka the P3, aka the P3 with modern fab and some marketing spin.

    The P3 being just a somewhat revised, better-process P2; and the P2 being a somewhat revised, better-process Pentium Pro. Which was introduced in 1995. The Pentium M is a supercharged 686.

  22. Re:April Fools? Right? by leenoble_uk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Would that be worse than hearing the plinky plonky sting that comes at the end of every other PC advert playing over the new iMac?

    shudder

  23. Re:The sky is falling! by AvantLegion · · Score: 4, Funny
    >> you know the world is coming to an end when the best golfer is black, the best rapper is white, apple goes to x86 and microsoft goes powerpc.

    And I got laid! We're all fucked!

  24. Re:The sky is falling! by One+Childish+N00b · · Score: 2, Funny

    And I got laid! We're all fucked!

    You might be, but I'm still waiting... bastard :(

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  25. Re:Apple vs IBM by narcolepticjim · · Score: 2, Funny

    My aunt knew him when they were growing up, and said he was a crybaby jackass then, and that was before Apple.

    Do you know him personally? Do you know he has a heart of gold and a soft spot for babies, dogs and old people? Do you know those mean old reporters are just jealous of his manliness, his leadership, his, his, his MOJO?

    Yeah, you are being an ass.

  26. What's the magic word? "x86"! by Arru · · Score: 2, Funny
    Actually, what would be really suprising to me is if Apple moves to Intel chips rather than AMD after the recent blatant Apple-oriented attack by Intel with the Pandora PC (Mac Mini look-alike). It's the popularity of the x86 architecture that's attractive rather than Intel itself.

    So, Intel and Apple (though not x86) is mentioned in some rumor articles and you will now be surprised unless Apple switch to AMD x86 processors?.

    My advice? Next time be wary of the difference between caffeine and cocaine.

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  27. Re:Any Evidence At All? by nanoakron · · Score: 2, Funny

    Frank? Is that you?

    -Nano.

  28. Re:This obviously means no Powerbook G5s by mgbastard · · Score: 2, Funny
    Looking at the iMac G5, I can't see why not. I mean, that things almost a laptop already! I'm really surprised there are no laptops with G5's yet. I thought it was the next step from that iMac...

    You have obviously had an experience with a Pentium 4 HP "desktop replacement" unit. Of which seem to actually run hotter and weigh more than the iMac G5 (once you remove the stand ;-)

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  29. It does not make sense. by RobertKozak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ladies and gentlemen,

    I have one final thing I want you to consider: (pulling down a diagram of of x86 chip) this is the x86 processor. The x86 is a processor from Intel, but the x86 is now installed in MAC Mini. Now, think about that. That does not make sense!

    Why would a x86 processor -- not even a PPC -- come be be found in MAC Mini with a bunch of Mac software? That does not make sense!

    But more importantly, you have to ask yourself: what does that have to do with this post? (calmly) Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this post! It does not make sense!

    Look at me, I'm a software developer posting on slashdot, and I'm talkin' about x86 on a Mac. Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense. None of this makes sense.

    And so you have to remember, when you're sitting there reading this post and wondering where in the hell is Chewbacca... does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this fine website, it does not make sense.

    If x86 is now found in Mac hardware, you must accept it!

    End Post.

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