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Knoppix 3.9 Released

GuyRiley writes "The Debian-based live-cd Linux distribution Knoppix has been updated to version 3.9. Among the most notable changes are the update to kernel 2.6.11 and the inclusion of OpenOffice 2.0 BETA and KDE 3.4. This is likely the last single-CD version of Knoppix before the split into 'Light' and 'Maxi' versions. Torrent links here."

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  1. (PLUs ONE INFORMATIVE) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  2. Re:Better, please. Not bigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    But I thought that:

    * Everyone knew what Google had planned for the GMail archives (other logs/files notwithstanding) and were OK with it in exchange for mail serach, capacity, and easy-on-the-eyes text ads

    * Isn't this nearly the same thing as AdSense anyway? How is using the logs to set up advertising links any different than how it works now with AdSense?

    * Everyone was cool with Google because of how their ads are clearly ads, and are simple texty affairs. If this model provides them the funding they need to be the awesome free service they are, what do you care?

    GTRacer
    - How is long memory a bad thing again?/p

  3. History is a bad thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I can understand the concern over storing deleted email. But, keeping caches of web content is a bad thing? Some (like me) would argue that deleting old, cached content would be analogous to burning books. The more history, the better if you ask me.

  4. Statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Most of Google's magic is really data mining the semantic data from the Internet.

    Gmail is nothing more than an attempt at getting a massive corpus of data on which to let their algorithms loose.

    I really think that, while there is potential for abuse, this is really the only way to tackle their problem space. After all, Google doesn't really rank web sites, people do. It's just that Google has some really clever ways for determining that people liked a web site.

    Sometimes it relates to webs of links, sometimes it relates to combinations of words, but Google's software doesn't deal in semantics--only algorithmically generating statistics from the data generated by people.

    I don't worry so much about Google, I worry about our future AI overlords. Although, if a truly scalable Artificial Intelligence ever gets Internet access, I fear it has the potential to know us better than we do.

  5. Re:Nothing but good stuff with Knoppix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    This is probably not legal in your country.

    I know of court rulings in Denmark that have stated that it is not legal to send personal data to the US to avoid the restrictions of the local personal data protection law. The UK laws on personal data protection are almost the same as in Denmark.

    If I was you and wanted to pursue this, I would - after having tried to settle this amicably with Napster.co.uk - complain to the UK Information Commissioner.


  6. Re:Dammit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The largest impact isn't on the sharers, but it's on the bittorrent tracker sites. The threshold of proof is raised not only for those offering files, such as in Kazaa, but most importantly, it's raised for sites that index torrents as well - at least that's how I read it.

  7. Re:Better, please. Not bigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Keep in mind Google's motto is: "Do No Evil". Making it possible for others to do evil is thus acceptable under the terms of the motto.

  8. Re:Better, please. Not bigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    One problem: Don't you think the RIAA might check the contents of the file before they sue?

    If recent history is any indication, no they won't check the file before they sue./p

  9. Re:Dammit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    There are other laws protecting your credit card number, SSN, etc. Sure, distributing them with illegal intent is often a crime, but usually owning your personal, private information without a need for it is usually illegal.

    Your analogy sucks anyways. We should have much tougher laws regarding personal information and privacy than we do have on publically available (but copyrighted) works. Some of the new privacy laws are getting there, but I don't think we're at that point yet.

  10. They can download it themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Unfortunately, all it takes for ??AA is having an employee or an "unrelated" person to download the file to produce the proof.

  11. Re:splitting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It has been decided that laws can not be tried ex post facto,

    Yeah, it was decided back in 1787, at least in the US.

  12. Re:splitting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I guess the next question would be: "What percentage constitutes fair use?"

  13. Re:Better, please. Not bigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Well, Napster got nailed not on direct infringement (because Napster wasn't directly transferring materials) but on "facilitation", instead. Presumably that attack would still work just as well on a tracker site.

  14. The Article and Posting are Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Tech support for 2000 will have to be paid for, but security patches will be released at LEAST until 2010-06-30. Between mainstream support ending and extended support ending, the only missing things are:

    1) Non-security hotfix support unless you buy an extended contract for this.
    2) No-charge incident support
    3) Warranty Claims
    4) Design changes and feature requests

    Here's a link to the dates on their site. Click ont he link towards the top of that page for the FAQ where they explain what all this means.

    They released security updates for NT4 well beyond when its extended support phase ended and I imagine they'll do the same for 2000. Even if they don't, I'm of the opinion that this is a very agreeable support lifecycle.

    -Lucas


  15. Re:Speaking of Knoppix...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Could someone please post a torrent link to this (whoppix)?

  16. Re:MOD PARENT AWAY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No, the OT is just some script (that should be banned soon) that's been flooding Slashdot for the past week or so. Yeah, it's fucking annoying.

  17. One small detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    "but it offers the tantalising opportunity to fast-forward in time to the slow death of the galaxies, billions of years from now"

    Assuming your assumptions and input are correct, of course.


  18. Re:splitting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    So let me get this straight. We can put together enough hardware to simulate the universe, YET WE ARE UNABLE TO PREDICT THE FREAKING WEATHER.

    Instead, put all those computers together to model the earth's weather and use the laws of physics to tell me if I should take off next Friday to play golf or schedule a trip to Disney in late August. Geez........

  19. Re:Open source bloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I thought that they really hadn't even figured out how the universe worked. They have stuff like stars that are older than some estimates of the universe's age, and missing matter in the form of dark matter that they can't account for. How are they supposed to simulate the universe, if the model they have is so badly flawed.

  20. Re:Install ease? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'll eat my hat if Jobs announces a switch to Intel chips (and I'll even be there at the Keynote). The most glaring giveaway in the article that this will NOT happen is this:

    Apple plans to move lower-end computers such as the Mac Mini to Intel chips in mid-2006 and higher-end models such as the Power Mac in mid-2007, sources said.

    So Apple's going to force their Developers, the people who need to have the latest, greatest and fastest machines, to use Mac Minis to develop their software on? Not in a billion years!

    There's no way in Hell that Apple could ever get away with switching low-end Mac Minis first and then top of the line Power Macs a year later. No developer is going to torture himself on a Mac Mini when they could be developing on a Dual 2.7 GHz (or higher) G5. Sure there are those that will say that Apple will let you compile on a G5 and then just test on a Mini - that will never happen either. It would increase development time by at least a factor of 2 and probably more. This would effectively kill the Mac platform.

    If Apple would ever consider this (which I doubt, AMD is far better than Intel and I believe the PPC platform has a far brighter future than the x86 platform, just look at all the next-gen gaming consoles) then they would need to transition their high-end machines first if not at the same time as everything else.

    Not to mention the fact that SSEx pales in comparison to Altivec. Why does this matter? Because Apple has invested heavily in vectorized libraries, especially CoreImage. CoreImage & Quartz 2D Extreme rely heavily on Altivec when you don't have a graphics card capable of running them. SSE just wouldn't be able to cut it. Also, what's Apple to do with all their engineers that have so much experience with PPC and Altivec? I could go on and on.

    It would take 4-5 years or more for Apple to make the transition and optimize OS X on Intel to where it is today (Apple might have a version of OS X running on x86, but I'm sure that it's nowhere near as optimized as Tiger is for PPC). Does Apple really want to give Microsoft that much time to catch up? I think not! They'd much rather run circles around Microsoft. It will be a cold day in Hell before this happens.

  21. Re:worth noting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    MacINTELosh

    Intel inside ;-)


  22. Re:MOD PARENT AWAY by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I think someone is trying to be funny... there's absolutely loads of cross posts.

  23. Re:Better, please. Not bigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    NSA, those goofballs? how about the DISA, NIMA, or even S(*&LKJ()&* The United States is a wonderful country. I am proud to be an American and will protect my country as best as I can

  24. Re:Someone has to say it; might as well be me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You bunch of assholes. I posted that first. Burn in hell.

  25. Re:Better, please. Not bigger by empaler · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sometimes it's impossible to follow links on /. summaries, hence the so-called "Slashdot Effect"

  26. Re:Open source bloat by Hognoxious · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Dunno, but to me there seems to be at least three conversations intermingled here.

    --
    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  27. Re:Install ease? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why do I see more and more comments like this that obviously arent' related to the parent post? Is Slashdot's MySQL database corrupt as hell or what?

  28. Re:Install ease? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Actually, if you login using gmail it automatically logs you into your search history which is found at http://www.google.com/searchhistory/ Hence, the .google.com cookie

  29. Re:Open source bloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Is the database screwed, or is this just a new form of crapflooding by the trolls?

  30. Re:Knoppix? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    you know the world is coming to an end when the best golfer is black, the best rapper is white, apple goes to x86 and microsoft goes powerpc.

    WTF does this have to do with Knoppix?

  31. Holy shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Reading that makes my brain hurt. I think I have cancer and/or aids now.