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Holmes Wilson Interviewed About Open-Source TV

flippy writes "Videoblogger Steve Garfield has a new interview with Holmes Wilson of Downhill Battle and Participatory Culture Foundation, talking about the F/OSS internet TV platform that Participatory Culture is developing and their recently released video publishing package, Broadcast Machine. Their RSS / BitTorrent / VLC application ("TiVo for the Internet") is expected to be released for Mac and Windows by the end of this month."

37 comments

  1. What would the MPAA say? by AviN456 · · Score: 1

    Just wait until the MPAA decides that this is somehow illegal, and tries to sue them out of business.

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    1. Re:What would the MPAA say? by hubang · · Score: 5, Funny

      Come on. If the MPAA wasn't supposed to be a conspiritorial monopoly, then there would be laws against conspiracy and monopolies.

      You see how your logic falls apart, and they're really "fighting terrorism?"

    2. Re:What would the MPAA say? by ShaniaTwain · · Score: 3, Informative

      You dont need the MPAA when you've got clueless hosting companies

    3. Re:What would the MPAA say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      informitv has a story Broadcast Machine promises to open internet TV that seems to suggest that creating "substantial non-infringing uses" through legitimate activities such as video blogging could be used as a defence against general action for copyright infringement.

  2. One good thing... by nozzo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    fast, active relief from the ./ effect

    1. Re:One good thing... by nozzo · · Score: 1

      DOH! naturally I meant /. typing ./ is the result of the 'quick! I could be the first to post on a /. article' effect :-D

  3. irrelevant by unk1911 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    video.google.com makes this service irrelevant?

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  4. Wow, only 3 comments in 10 minutes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Everyone must still be on the Apple thread.

    So I wonder whether the remote possibility that we'll ever get useful IP multicast for video streams is going to be forgotten now that we have Bittorrent. I mean, at least BT is here and useful now.

    1. Re:Wow, only 3 comments in 10 minutes. by m50d · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, it's just everyone trying to post a comment is getting 503'd. I think slashdot finally bit off more than it can chew in terms of visitors, the millions of rabid apple fanboys have managed to slashdot slashdot itself.

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  5. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We now have the technology to combine Slashdot and Naked News together. I may never leave my desk again.

  6. Redundant, no one likes subject lines. by Kwirl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love slashdot. comparing this service to video.google.com or whatever...there should be a time-delay before posting is allowed.


    The first and obvious benefit of this service is that it lays a very solid groundwork for any future public defense of the bit torrent protocol. However, my initial happy world is crushed as I wonder what limits will be used to prevent us from basically hijacking cable programming to rebroadcast to the world free of charge?


    Quick, name the organization that is going to join the *IAA fight against piracy!

    1. Re:Redundant, no one likes subject lines. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another, related organization, pushing BitTorrent and RSS is the people over at DigitalBicycle.org.

      They seem to be doing some cool work with downhill on making this into a community movement.

  7. Intranet only? by Dare+nMc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am tempted to setup their Broadcast Machine on the company intranet, for the videos we share internally (I am at a remote location, with a T1 connection to the most viewers, who are all interconnected 100MB links)

    My question is, with the now torrentless operation of azures, protecting just the torrent file on the intranet, does the video immediatly become world accessable with the first viewing by any client, even if that is inside our VPN (with internet access)

    1. Re:Intranet only? by Rayeh · · Score: 0

      You can tell the azureus client to disable any externel peer sources, and only look for peers from the tracker in the torrent file.

      http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/SecureTo rrents

  8. "Open Source Television" by devphaeton · · Score: 1

    I know that it's a term, but it doesn't make much sense like that. Perhaps "Peer-produced Television"?

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    1. Re:"Open Source Television" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Might I suggest "Public Television"?

  9. wont work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    you guys cant even support PBS, so iam sure this will be no different.

    1. Re:wont work by Sjobeck · · Score: 0

      au contraire, anonymous coward.

      PBS is one of the very last sincere, honest, accurate, in depth reporting in this country today, and every person under the age of 39 would be dying in the desert right now if it were not for PBS.

      Please publically rescind your comment & send $50 to your local PBS station & you will be forgiven.

  10. What's the difference? by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 1
    "expected to be released for Mac and Windows"

    *sigh* What's the difference any more...

  11. META MODERS OF THE PARENT - GET THEM by WindBourne · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Who ever is doing modding today is bizarre. This is the third time today where the 2'nd or third posting of the article is modded redundant. It may be off topic, it may be something flamebait, it may be a number of things, but it is not redundant. That is somebody who is after several ppl or simply mods down for no reason at all.

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  12. Open Source TV = an evolution of Public Access TV? by jason718 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    In the US, Public Access stations, for a number of years, have been giving people a voice within their own neighborhoods.

    Taking this model to the Internet, using technologies such as that mentioned in the article, will definitely enable much broader distribution channels (but not necessarily larger audiences).

    Now, of course, technology is just part of the solution. The real meat is in the content (same applies to podcasting, of course).

    One final thought - how long before we see Nielsen ratings for online programming? (as well as Arbitron ratings for podcasts?)

  13. May I be the first to say by zephc · · Score: 1

    Heyyyy, wassup, Holmes?

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  14. A little advice. by Zangief · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do not call it "Open TV". Call it something else, even "Open Video Broadcasting System, that is in no way similar to TV".

    Because if they claim they have a TV system, soon the FCC will get regulation rights over it. It has just happened ot the guys of IP telephony...

    My 2 cents.

  15. why no comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this was a long time coming, hopefully this is "killer ap" enough to enter the mainstream..

  16. Abolish copyright! by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Copyright should be abolished. That's all I can say.







    Either that, or they should bring it back to the way it used to be, so that the rights of the public and the rights of the copyright holders are balanced. Things should go out of copyright after a good fifteen years or so.

    There are many reasons this is so. There have been many books published at the turn of the 1900's that you can buy today, brand new. Books with ingenius information about how various mechanical systems were constructed, etc. This information would be all but missing if these books never went out of copyright, because it would be illegal to reprint them today without the permission of someone who is long dead or a publishing company that long got bought out, shut down, or simply disappeared.

    Mechanical books are not the reason. The reason is that too much valuable information gets lost when copyright extends for practically forever. Games for the Atari that nobody cares about anymore and nobody makes a profit off anymore; Software made in the '70's or '80's that some companies are held hostage to because it would literally cost millions to replace them, but when they break down it costs ridiculous quantities in terms of lost uptime, lost production, etc.; books published in the same era that are out of print and impossible to find, yet you wish you could find a copy; television series from the same era that people would like to duplicate, sell, watch, enjoy, etc., but cannot legally do so, while the studio stands to make nothing from it because it has absolutely no interest in doing so... Many things like this that do exist and happen on a daily basis.

    It's like this: You have tons of perfectly good food, but you don't want to eat it. So you're going to put it in the trash. Some hungry person comes up and begs for the food. You refuse to give it to him, but since you don't want it, you throw it away anyway. If you give it to him instead of throwing it away, you gain and lose nothing, but the hungry man eats. If you throw it away, you still gain and lose nothing, but the hungry man goes hungry. You don't gain or lose anything either way, but the overall economy benefits, and value is created. Therefore, copyright should expire after a reasonable (and SHORT, meaning 10 to 15 years MAX) amount of time, so that existing information can continue to generate value for the economy. Otherwise, the information is lost, forgotten, deleted, or otherwise destroyed, whether deliberately or simply as a matter of elapsing time, and what could definitely benefit a later generation will be forgotten. Imagine if the classic literature were lost in the same way that out-of-print literature from the 80's is going to be. Yes, you could say it's worthless, and that's why it's out of print. But people thought Moby Dick was worthless until years after the author's death! Copyright is a short sighted thing. It should be balanced.

    Either that, or abolished altogether.

  17. Piracy? by Archades · · Score: 0

    Would this mean as i am buffering the video, that i am infringing on a copyright seeing as my hdd is recording it for however many seconds?

  18. The problem is content, not distribution. by Animats · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Distribution is not the problem. Crappy content is the problem. There just isn't that much good amateur video around. In SF, you can go see this stuff at film festivals, and most of it is awful. Bay Aree Video Coalition and Artists Television Access have been providing facilities for making and editing video for decades now, and most of it still sucks. It is not a technology problem. It's a creative problem.

    There are already sites that will host your video for free, and cheap commercial hosting services that don't charge for bandwidth. If your stuff has any merit at all, it's not hard to get it hosted. Unless it's porno, you probably won't get that many viewers. The Internet Archive has vast amounts of video, but few people watch it.

    Bittorrent only works well because many of the users are pirating the same stuff, yielding economies of scale.

    1. Re:The problem is content, not distribution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it will look like cable T.V.

  19. Video Blog by Presto+Vivace · · Score: 1

    It would be great if there were a video version of blogging software. Something that would make it possible for non-techies to create their own video-blog with just a digital camera and access to the Internet. Most of the material would be drivel; but the stuff that would be good would be very good indeed.

    1. Re:Video Blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be great if there were a video version of blogging software. Something that would make it possible for non-techies to create their own video-blog with just a digital camera and access to the Internet. Most of the material would be drivel; but the stuff that would be good would be very good indeed.

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      There is. It's called Vlog It. It's custom designed just for video blogging and is much faster that video editing. http://www.vlog.com/

  20. Broadcasting machine sucks by thetr0n · · Score: 1, Insightful
    I find the name broadcasting machine to be missleading

    You can get the same functionality out of this software as wordpress or any other blogging software.

    My definition of a program call Broadcasting machine would be something that includes: Video editing, Live video switches/faders and broadcast servers

    Thats what i esentially what i need need with our own project http://www.freematrix.us/