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The Revolution Is In The Games

Dark Paladin writes "There's an interesting article over at Advanced Media Network regarding discussing how the upcoming Nintendo Revolution's ability to let players play old games and more independent developers gain access to mainstream gamers could take advantage of the Long tail approach of Internet business." From the article: "Imagine how many would-be developers that are now working on independent games, games that sell maybe only a few thousand copies online, unable to break into the console market. But if Nintendo is right, and offers maybe an inexpensive (or free, which would be better) development system for would be game makers, the field could shift. Now, they don't need to rely on that one Legend of Zelda game to sell 5,000,000 copies to be a success - they could have 1,000 developers all making microbudget games that only sell 5,000 copies each (a pittance in the game development world) and still be considered successful."

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  1. What was that phrase again? by doc+modulo · · Score: 5, Funny

    When the revolution comes, the PS3 and XBOX 360 will be the first against the wall.

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  2. Quality Control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nintendo would HAVE to have quality control in place, and hand-pick what games become available. Otherwise i would imagine someone somewhere would end up writing a trojan horse or other destructive program disguised as a game (imagine perhaps one that erases all your game saves?)

    That said, imagine the amount of staffing and time required to evaluate each and every crappy little home-brew submitted... !!!

  3. Re:Yes, but... by porcupine8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yes, but, if they finally do have access to this great money making market, and most of them still only sell 5,000 copies, perhaps that sheds some light on the quality of the games.

    That's like saying because independent films sell a fraction of the number of tickets that blockbusters sell, you should question their quality. Yes, there are plenty of sucky independent films, but there are plenty of good ones and sucky blockbusters as well. They draw different audiences.

    You may be confusing quality of the game with quality of the marketing budget.

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  4. Outside of Gaming by SillyHatsOnly · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The older game crowd is probably already sold on buying on of these (which Nintendo profits off of unlike MS and Sony who subsidize). Many may have kids who will be able to experience the same games you grew up with (can we say family bonding?....DAAAAAD, I'm stuck on the second quest of zelda...*dad drops everything and runs to the rescue*).

    Sure, independent games may suck for the most part, but what about the prospects of educational software combined with low dev costs? How many schools would be able to customize software for (probably) a relatively small fee and a $200 system? There's a reason why the Sony dev kit is called a T-10k (think price here). Can't see public schools shelling out for one of those. And you can't buy a half decent computer for $200-ish.

    Give it a while and Mario may be teaching your kids to count, spell, type, and hack into gov computers. OOOOO kids LOOK! Numbers...gotta catch'em all...and beat other players at it online as well.

  5. Developing for the Revolution? I think not... by non0score · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now, don't take the title as I'm against indie developers. As a matter of fact, I'm all for it.

    But to not tarnish Nintendo's new flagship product by a bunch of poorly polished indie games, I don't think Nintendo will allow any random person to develop for the newest system itself. However, remember that the Nintendo Revolution is backwards compatible? Remember that Nintendo said it's also designed for the indie developers low on budget but big on ideas? Well, if you're an indie developer low on budget, you wouldn't need the power of the core Revolution (by core, I mean the most computationally powerful part of the Revolution). You'd only need, say, the N64 part. Or maybe even the GameCube part. That should more than suffice for indie developers trying to prove a concept (think Alien Hominin while still in the Flash stage). This way, Nintendo could offer NES/SNES/N64/GameCube dev kits for free (or some reasonably low cost), yet keep the core Revolution dev kits at industry prices. In addition, Nintendo could easily "promote" promising developers while still disassociating itself from poorly written games.

    Furthermore, Nintendo could allow indie developers to host their own games and forcing them to offer the games for free. That way, Nintendo can't be blamed for allowing the sales for bad games, since whether or not these games are poorly written, they weren't "sold" in the first place. And if a game ends up being successful, Nintendo could buy/negotiate for the idea and (help) produce it for the core Revolution.

  6. Re:Won't happen though by WhyCause · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Think of it this way:

    Nintendo sets up an Indie Dev Program where an Indie Dev House presents a game concept to the company. The big N weeds out the pong clones, and leases/loans a dev kit to the worthy developer. The developer has to prove X amount of progress every so often (academic grants work this way), or they lose their dev kits.

    As part of the lease terms, Nintendo gets the publishing rights. Since Nintendo has not invested any 'real' money, any projects that are not up to snuff just get dropped, and Nintendo hasn't really lost anything (increased hardware sales/market penetration taking up the program cost). But, if they find a real winner (e.g., Alien Hominid) they can publish away, making a fair chunk of change. Even if they only get mediocre titles out of the deal, they could publish "Indie Packs" with ~4 games per disk. Sell them for ~$15, and you could have run-away success stories (would you pay $15 for the next Bejeweled and 3 other games? I would).

    Think about how cheaply this could be implemented. Nintendo could use a remote server to do all the compilation (i.e., IBM's on-demand stuff; think punch card submissions), making the dev kit nothing more than an emulator and document package (no progress, no access to the compilation servers, and no rogue hardware to worry about). To do your final testing, Nintendo burns a disk or two and ships them off to you. You verify that things look good, and submit 'final' code to Nintendo. If they decide to go ahead, they do their internal quality testing and then publish it. There are about four or five spots in that whole process where Nintendo can say, "Nope, forget it," and they cut their losses on that particular project.

    I'll bet that the media they'll be using will be cheap as hell to press, even in small runs, which is the linch-pin in making this whole thing feasibile. This set-up might even work for the DS, since it's apparent that small runs of the carts are reasonably cheap as well (I'm basing this on the fact that the Zelda trailer was handed out on DS carts at E3).