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Disposable Camcorder

shamowfski writes "CVS Corp on Monday began selling a disposable digital camcorder. The $29.99 pocket-sized camcorder was developed by Pure Digital Technologies Inc., a San Francisco-based start-up company. The camcorder weighs under 5 ounces and holds 20 minutes of digital video and sound. It features a 1.4 inch color playback screen and an ability to delete video, and it saves video on a memory chip instead of tapes. Can't wait till they hack this one."

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  1. Has the prior digicam hack... by robslimo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    been used much?

    I mean, how many people actually did the hack and got a cheap, reusable digital camera out of the deal?

    I'm betting it wasn't enough to have a large effect on sales.

  2. Whee!! by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yep, we're going to be seeing a whole lotta fresh amateur porn over at Livejournal from this. Man, I love PureDigital.

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  3. Re:Wait a second... by ReverendLoki · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I believe they mean it has a memory unit, capable of storing about 20 minutes of video, hardwired into the internal workings of the machine, not readily accessible from the exterior. This would be similar to other disposable still cameras, anyways. You can delete some video and re-shoot it, but can't hold more than 20 minutes at a time. In the lab, they have their own means of accessing the data, which they then burn to a DVD for you.

    I can't help but think that, since I imagine they will re-use everything, including the memory unit, that people will find out not only how to get the data form the chip itself, but also will be able to read what was recorded on there by previous disposable camcorder owners. No chance of that going wrong at all...

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  4. Expensive by stoolpigeon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So if you play by the rules - you spend 30 bucks to rent it, then another 13 to get the burned dvd. $43 for a 20 minute DVD. Seems a bit steep in my book.

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  5. waiting for the hook. by JVert · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not feasable. I'd pay $20 for a 1.4" color screen to play with on its own. There has to be a deposit to make sure they are recycled by the right people. So the $20 includes the ability to get the data back out? Pay $80, get $60 back when you turn the case in, that I can see happening.

  6. This will be dead soon... by sterno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Realisistically, how long before the average cell phone has basic video recording capabilities? Most phones now have still cameras, and the main limitation on video is just storage capacity. So, I should think that within 5 years, video cell phones will be standard and then this device is totally irrelevant.

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    1. Re:This will be dead soon... by argent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      how long before the average cell phone has basic video recording capabilities?

      I doubt I'll ever get a cellphone that has a camera, let alone video, built in. Cellphones already have too many battery-hungry features as it is.

      Give me bluetooth devices I can use WITH my phone instead.

    2. Re:This will be dead soon... by argent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because, of course, the camera uses battery power when not in use.

      It uses at least 2cm of space that could otherwise have been used for the battery. So either the phone is bigger (bad) or the battery is smaller (bad).

      Features are not free, and features always seem to end up sucking battery life one way or the other.

    3. Re:This will be dead soon... by grumbel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The real question is when will the bandwidth of a mobilephone be large and cheap enough so that I can just stream the video for recording to my server at home in realtime? Who needs local storage if there is floating enough free storage around on the net? All it needs is a fast enough way to access the net. If mobile phones fail to provide that, maybe free WiFi access points will cover it at least for the more public places. Who knows, will certainly be interesting when you see the first 'my whole life 24/7 on video'-movies coming up.

  7. Just buy a camcorder by DamienMcKenna · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can get decent camcorders (Panasonic PV-53) off ebay for $100, why bother with this POS?

  8. Re:Now we will get "video" images from battlefield by JVert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Soo... We trust them with guns but not cameras?

  9. Re:Memory erasing? by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Fuck that. I would never have any "special moments" recorded. Not now, not ever..with anything.

    I don't like the idea of that shit comming back to haunt me on the internet. Because you know shit like that can and has happened before.

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  10. Re:Now we will get "video" images from battlefield by StandardDeviant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is more threatening to the powers that be?

    Pen vs. Sword, Act III Scene 2...

  11. Re:Wait a second... by fishbowl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "A camcorder that records onto a digital card is disposable...how?"

    Proprietary battery? One-way moulded case containing the media? Real crypto?

    Those of us who remember Super-8 film, remember paying $6.00 (1978 dollars!) for the three minute and twenty second film cartridge, and another $8.00 to develop it.

    >Who needs a camcorder like that?

    I'm sure if it's sold in the right shops at the right places, tons of people will buy them. They will be sold to people before embarking on day cruises (even people with real cameras hate seawater spray. Would you take your Canon XL2 on a Zodiac?) They will be bought dozens at a time for wedding guests or corporate meetings. How do you suppose a waterproof version would do at a dive or surf shop?

    People pay $12.00 for a 24-exposure C41 camera today, and another $10-12 to develop the film. Hell, *I* have even done this, and I have a very good digital SLR, a good digital point-and-shoot, and a respectable film SLR system. I've still found reasons to buy these things from time to time, sometimes for the waterproof Kodak, sometimes only to avoid standing out or being singled out, and occassionally because I enjoy working within the limitations of a given medium.

    Nobody "needs" a camcorder like that. But they will be purchased, along with bugspray, sunblock, and a bag of cheetos. I'm sure I'll even try one.

    One thing though, if it does turn out to be hackable, I assume I'll never see one. Just like I never saw an Iopener or a CueCat or a Nintendo glove or a Juicebox.

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  12. Re:Not new.. by DustMagnet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I haven't had a digital camera die a natural death yet.

    What's a natural death for a man-made artifact?

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  13. Re:Not new.. by Skynyrd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Damn it, you beat me to it. Seriously, I paid $900 for a major brand camcorder and a year and 3 months later it's kaput - repair price exceeds replacement price. The problem - a manufacturing defect in the processor. The warranty - 1 year. That's the last time I buy expensive crap from Sony.

    I know many, many, many people with the same story - expensive Sony toy dies just after the warranty. They have all sworn off of Sony.

    I'm amazed at haw many times I've heard that.

  14. Re:Don't fill the earth with trash. by slimy_dude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, what this company is suggesting is superior to recycling. The cameras themselves are reusable. So, rather than say melting the plastics and reforming them (which itself would be difficult if at all possible), the camera frame can be used verbatim without expending the large energy costs associated with recycling.

    Give me reuse over recycling any day.

  15. Re:20 Minutes? Why bother? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
    but with only 20 minutes of what is probably lo-res video, why would anyone bother?
    shoot it up in a model rocket

    keep it in your glove box in case of who-knows-what (Rodney King II?)

    take it mountain biking to get clips of your buddies

    on vacation when you forget your real camcorder

    as a kids' toy

    set them out on the tables at a wedding party for the guests to film each other and leave you advice

  16. Re:Not new.. by pete6677 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a shame that this once great company is now running on fumes, clinging to an old reputation of high quality while they now pump out crap. I haven't had, or heard of anyone having, a good Sony experience in the last 7 years, the PS2 being about the only exception.

  17. As expensive as phone sex! by gbulmash · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The "one-time-use" camera sells for $29.99. When you're done shooting your 20 minutes of video, you return it and pay $12.99 to get the video transferred to DVD.

    That's $42.98 per use... $2.15 cents per minute... not including sales tax.

    Though people talk about hacking it, the people who could hack it are not the target market for it, as they can figure out how to use their camcorders and DVD burners.

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