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McAfee, Macromedia Flirting With F/OSS Community

xbsd writes "Those computer industry specialists claiming that the end of Linux is fast approaching may be interested in two recent movements inside the industry. Two weeks ago, McAfee, one of the world leaders in computer security products, launched its first commercial antivirus solution for Linux, and just yesterday, Macromedia announced that it is joining the Eclipse Foundation and plans to deliver a next-generation rich Internet application (RIA) development tool code-named Zorn based on the popular open-source IDE."

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  1. Oh crap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean McAfee is going to start releasing virii for linux too?

    1. Re:Oh crap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      So it makes them look like dumbassi when they use it.

    2. Re:Oh crap. by FLAGGR · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's spelt dumbassii, duh.

  2. Anti-Virus by ThisIsFred · · Score: 5, Informative

    By the way, the most effective and affordable AV program of the Windows world, namely Grisoft's AVG, already runs on Linux. Prepare for competition, McAfee!

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    "A fool and his freedom are soon parted"
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    1. Re:Anti-Virus by bersl2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's also ClamAV, which is a GPLed virus scanner (mainly for mailservers, but it does have a daemonized scanner and a CLI-based frontend).

    2. Re:Anti-Virus by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 4, Informative

      its also better than any scanner ive seen for windows in memory footprint and not hogging the screen during updates (usde freshclamd to update for you).

      Plus there's klamav (kde frontend) which is quite good.

    3. Re:Anti-Virus by ThisIsFred · · Score: 4, Informative
      I use ClamAV on the server-side, but only as a proactive tool; It halts the spread of viruses when used in conjunction with dazuko, because it blocks access to the infected files. ClamAV's drawbacks are that it can't repair files, and its quarantine feature isn't sophisticated enough to properly file away infected files. It can only dump them in one location, which is obviously bad when two files with otherwise important data happen to have the same name.

      I note that ClamAV might have had a memory leak up until 0.80, but it appears to be fixed now. Also, it's totally sweet how easily it can be configured to target certain areas, certain files, or even certain sizes of files. As you can see, I have not forgotten about ClamAV. :o)
      Plus there's klamav (kde frontend) which is quite good.
      Don't forget the Windows port!
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      "A fool and his freedom are soon parted"
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    4. Re:Anti-Virus by stevey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't think they've even cared to try.

      But it's no great loss, there is a kernel module available to allow on-access scanning for arbitary purposes : Dazuko.

      I used that to hookup real-time virus scanning with a couple of different engines - there's a userspace deamon which you can use to block, or allow, any file operations with.

    5. Re:Anti-Virus by niiler · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is honestly one of the most annoying features of Windows AV programs. If you aren't click-happy, you don't need such features, especially on a linux box. When you turn it off on Windows, your machine speeds up by a factor of two.

  3. Macromedia? by Conception · · Score: 5, Informative

    By Macromedia, you mean Adobe right? Super F/OSS friendly Adobe.

    1. Re:Macromedia? by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Funny

      Macromedia releasing...
      a next-generation rich Internet application (RIA) development tool code-named Zorn

      Hmm... "Zorn." Where have I heard that before?

      Didn't "Zorn" mean "utter destruction" in the rabbit-language from Watership Down by Richard Adams?

      'Zorn! Zorn!' cried the dreadful squealing voice. 'All dead! O Zorn!'

    2. Re:Macromedia? by Lisandro · · Score: 5, Funny

      No need for your soul... with the weird shit going arround lately (Debian releasing new stable, Apple going x86, etc.), it wouldn't surprise me if that happens. We're living in interesting times, indeed.

      Anyway, it's all good until Duke Nukem Forever goes gold. Then the world as we know it dissapears.

  4. Re:Eclipse Faster by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I love the fact that people went to all the trouble of getting Eclipse to compile with gcj and then didn't supply any binaries for use by the general public.

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  5. Re:Virus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    To scan for Windows viruses. You can use it on
    samba file servers in a windows network, for example.

  6. from McAfee's datasheet... by brer_rabbit · · Score: 3, Insightful
    from the first line of McAfee's datasheet...

    The world reverberated from the effects of viruses such as Nimda, CodeRed, and more recently, Slammer, Mydoom, Netsky, and Bagle.

    well, the Windows world reverberated....

    1. Re:from McAfee's datasheet... by Slime-dogg · · Score: 3, Informative

      All the world. Though non-windows systems were not affected, the bandwidth sure was.

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  7. Turnabout by overshoot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Well, fair's fair.

    Microsoft bought a Rumanian company that produced border protection (protect MS clients by filtering on Linux hosts) and turned around to "cut off [McAfee's] air supply" with an MS client antivirus offering. Of course they shut down the Linux border filters.

    In return, McAfee fills the vacuum by offering a Linux-hosted border filter.

    Works for me.

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  8. we cancelled the Mcafee contract at our company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting


    we had a virus that corrupted MSIE (mshtml.dll) Mcafee was instantly disabled, that 100mb install became useless all because Mcafee based their application dialogs on the MSIE component

    we cancelled our contract with them soon after as we realised that if Mcafee dont understand security (they understand marketing though) so we will have to find someone who does understand security, and knows not to base the last line of defence on the biggest exploitable product on a windows system

    ClamAV is looking good because of the costing though reliabilty and accurate is still a concern

    -SJ

  9. Re:Eclipse Faster by Black+Art · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fedora Core 4 has binaries for Eclipse in the "core" repository, as well as SRPMS.

    http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/development/ SRPMS/

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  10. McAfee by lheal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    McAfee started out as a shareware company, selling an antivirus program for MS-DOS and Macintosh.

    They acquired a bunch of smaller companies, then started calling themselves "Network Associates" soon after they acquired that company.

    While they haven't ever been open source, they've usually (always?) had a product you could download and use without first paying them for it. And I think they have always given out free updates.

    I wonder how much of their corporate culture has survived from the old days? To what degree is "McAfee" just a brand name?

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  11. Fear the virus by Colonel+Panic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes you really need virus protection on Linux. The situation is dire. There are thousands of viruses being brewed up around the world to infect Linux boxen. Be afraid, be very afraid!!

    But now McAfee has come to your rescue. Only $49.95 for complete peace of mind.

    I feel so much better already.

  12. Re:End of OSS? by ErikTheRed · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Who actually believed the people who were saying that Linux et. al. were going to fail? I mean, there's millions of people who want to use a better OS, and more importantly, many of those people also want to help to make their OS better.
    It's the same group that thought the Internet was 'just a fad.' And remember how that group included Microsoft?
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  13. Flirting? by ErikTheRed · · Score: 5, Funny


    Gee... I hope we get dinner, a good bottle of wine, and a movie before we get screwed.

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  14. use my free, gpl'd virus scanner instead by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 3, Funny

    Put this in your root crontab:

    0 0 * * * echo "You're runnng Linux, you don't have a virus."