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New NASA Admin Griffin Cleans House

Doug Dante writes "Michael D. Griffin, the new NASA Administrator, has given 20 senior NASA officials their walking papers, in a first purge that can see as many as 50 loose their positions, reports the Washington Post. Included are Associate Administrator for Space Operations William F. Readdy, and his deputy Air Force Maj. Gen. Michael C. Kostelnik (retired)."

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  1. Baby & bathwater... by jpellino · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about you get thru the current Mars & Cassini missions and GET THE SHUTTLE BACK UP before you sack the leaders of those three programs - two of which are very big loud & public successes (in NASA-land anyway) and the third had better be or else you'll be looking at barely enough authorization funds to make with two large-ish slingshots.

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  2. Re:Will they bring in _real_ engineers now? by CyricZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It really doesn't matter what school they graduated from. As long as their background is in engineering, rather than political pandering, then things will improve at NASA. Real engineers practicing real engineering will prevent probes from being lost on a routine basis, and space shuttles from blowing up every so often.

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  3. Re:people or system? by Detritus · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I wouldn't say that it is a matter of efficiency. When you get to the level of NASA Headquarters, politics becomes extremely important. You aren't a practicing scientist or engineer, you are an upper-level manager, concerned about funding and budgets in an environment where everyone is fighting over a limited and shrinking pot of money. Not only that, but you have to defend and sell your programs to the executive branch and Congress. It's not like someone hands you a check and says "Design, launch and operate a spacecraft that does X".

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  4. what are your thoughts on..... by tloh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder what Griffin, as a genuine no nonsense space scientist would make of the rants that appear on slashdot from time to time among space enthusiasts. If any of the folks who run slashdot can score an interview with him, I have a ton of questions I would like the head of NASA to address. Hey, it's possible right? As a public official, public relations are an integral part of his job. I believe he would have to regard a high profile mob like slashdot as a sort of "constituency" he needs to take seriously.

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  5. Re:Lose, Loose by gbpuckett · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Shouldn't that be '"Lose" and "Loose" is not even one of the more challenging mixups.' ?

    Ironic, ain't it.

  6. Re:zerg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The CIA and the FBI are presently undergoing purges of anyone that is not politically inline with the republican administration. These purges happening at NASA smacks of the same thing.

  7. Re:Will they bring in _real_ engineers now? by meatspray · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Really, I'm not completely sure better is even a problem per se. I'm not working on the shuttle project or anything, but I don't really thing that the things aren't getting brought to the attention of people in charge.

    Really, I say, swap out for better decision makers and let loose anyone that can't be deprogrammed from the don't tell the king bad news, it pisses him off mentality.

    If you could take an objective non-engineer and graft them physically to a stone cold righteous logic wielding geek in the know, I think it would all work out in the end. Any engineer in a management position for a succifient period of time will eventually slip down the dark side of bureaucracy .

  8. Re:Preparing for a more military-centric NASA? by Edward+Ka-Spel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Make NASA more military-centric? Most of the people being canned are ex-military generals. The stated plan of Griffin is to make NASA more engineering and science driven. If anything, it sounds the opposite.

  9. Re:Preparing for a more military-centric NASA? by BDew · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mod parent up!

    Leaving - Sean O'Keefe: Former Secretary of the Navy.
    Adm (Ret.) Craig Steidle.
    Maj. Gen. (Ret.) Michael Kostelnik.

    Most of the military folks O'K brought in are being swept out by Griffin.

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  10. Apparently they "politically affiliated" already by jesterzog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anyone have the political affiliations of the people who were fired?

    I don't know specifically about their affiliations, but if you trust the article, page 2 says:

    Instead, the sources said, [Griffin] expressed dismay that NASA over the past several years had put a lot of people in top management positions because of what one source described as "political connections or bureaucratic gamesmanship -- not merit."

    Several sources spoke of a corps of younger scientists and engineers, including Griffin, who had been groomed in the 1970s and 1980s as NASA's next generation of leaders only to be shoved aside during the past 15 years. They said Griffin hopes to bring them back.

    In principle, this sounds like a very good thing. Apparently, he's kicking out people whom he believes were hired more for their political affiliations than their competance. Before taking this as it's written, however, can anyone comment on any political affiliations of Griffin himself? For all we know, and as I think you're implying, his definition of competance might be synonymous with republican.

  11. Re:Begins the glut of spelling nazis at NASA by dbIII · · Score: 3, Interesting
    as many as 50 loose their positions
    Cry havoc! And let loose the jobs of war!

    To those who correct spelling an grammar on the net, you are the unorthodox ones. The language of the net is broken english and your dictionary does not apply beyond your border.

  12. Re:NASA's competitive prizes remain too small by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Read Mike Griffin's "internal memo" to NASA posted on spaceref.com or nasawatch.com. He (rightly so) believes that private industry does not have the resources or drive to implement the kinds of multigenerational missions that space exploration requires. Getting to Mars will take decades (not the trip itself, but the planning, building the vehicles, and implementation). When was the last time you saw any corporation plan more than 10 years out? How about 20 or 30? Now, take all profit motivation out of that equation and how many of them are left... purely scientific and research oriented undertakings by a corporation that took decades to bring to fruition. A government organization is the only kind of organization that will be able to span that timeframe without breaking apart.

  13. Re:people or system? by Feztaa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    it's customary for a new director to request the resignations of senior managers. It doesn't mean that he accepts them (or accepts all of them), but it's customary to submit them.

    What the hell, is that like some kind of neo-feudal way of pledging allegiance to the new King? Like acknowledging that he does in fact have the power to fire you at any time?