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Initial Review of Microsoft's Acrylic BETA

Geuis writes "I'll admit, I'm not a big Microsoft fan. I'm an old-time user of Adobe Photoshop, and I love nearly everything it can do. However, in the interest of science, I decided to try out the new beta for Microsoft's answer to Photoshop, Acrylic. My review is posted on my blog. Final recommendation: Stay as far away from Acrylic as you can. It needs so much development work done, it shouldn't be out of Alpha testing. If this is anywhere close to the final product they are planning to release, then Microsoft should be prepared to eat another few million in lost development funds. There's no reason you should have to eat it too."

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  1. Wow, so much nonsense in one blog entry by metlin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What utter crap, that guy has no clue about what Acrylic is meant for, and keeps comparing it with Photoshop (it's like comparing apples and oranges). And ofcourse, his utter prejudice against MS doesn't help, either.

    I'm not a particularly big fan of MS, but having seen Acrylic, I can assure you that that guy has no clue about what he's talking about.

    Anyway, I wrote a detailed rant in reply to his blog entry.

    Man, since when did Slashdot starting posting ridiculous reviews from Joe Schmoe off the street?

    1. Re:Wow, so much nonsense in one blog entry by Michalson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And you expect better from a guy who spends the first page describing 3 different reasons why his inability to execute an HTTP download is a problem of the software he hasn't even installed yet (even throwing in an evil Microsoft conspiracy one liner)?

    2. Re:Wow, so much nonsense in one blog entry by metlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, it's primarily a vector editing program, you ought to be comparing it against such tools as Macromedia's Fireworks and the like. It has both pixel and vector editing features, but the guy does not explore that aspect at all.

      He keeps comparing the pixel editing aspects with photoshop, completely ignoring the other side. And half his/her rant is spent on crazy stuff pertaining to how s/he could not download it?

      If you notice, the reviewer has failed to mention vector editing in any form or comparison - makes you wonder if they are even aware of that.

      And yes, I agree with you - it's probably nothing more than a stunt by MS, but if you are reviewing a product, at the very least be aware of _what_ you're reviewing it against. If I took up a street Miata prototype and started comparing it against the virtues of Ferrari, folks are gonna laugh at me. Both are entirely different, and made for quite different purposes.

    3. Re:Wow, so much nonsense in one blog entry by bcrowell · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, it's primarily a vector editing program, you ought to be comparing it against such tools as Macromedia's Fireworks and the like.
      Or against Inkscape, which is open-source, and is getting to be a reasonably stable, full-featured piece of software. It runs on Windows and Linux.

    4. Re:Wow, so much nonsense in one blog entry by Deathlizard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man, since when did Slashdot starting posting ridiculous reviews from Joe Schmoe off the street?

      Let's see if it submitted Article Passes the Slashdot article Submission test...

      1) Does it Prase Linux: NO :(
      2) Does it Bash Microsoft: YES :|
      3) Does it talk about Firefox: YES :)
      4) Is it duplicating something from today: NO :D

      From what I see, it passed three of the four tests, so it's gold.

    5. Re:Wow, so much nonsense in one blog entry by 75th+Trombone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      100% agreed.

      An example: The guy says there's no intuitive way to scroll around the image because there are NO SCROLLBARS.

      Anyone who's used Photoshop for five minutes knows that to drag around an image, you hold down the spacebar to toggle to the hand tool. This works in just about any other graphics app, including Acrylic.

      Another: He regurgitates the gripe that it can only save to XPR format, while the slightest bit of intelligent poking around reveals that -- again, JUST like Photoshop -- it EXPORTS to JPG, PNG, etc etc.

      And that's in the HALF of the "review" that talks about the program instead of the logistics of downloading and installing the thing.

      One thing a lot of us tech nerds have to learn is that our initial feelings do not opinions make. Something about our proto-Asperger's Syndrome compels us to try to make cogent arguments out of what we KNOW are just bare impressions.

      After this guy learns that, he also needs to learn not to compensate by parading his malformed non-arguments in front of all of Slashdot.

      --
      The United States of America: We do what we must because we can.
  2. Move Along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If he cant download a file successfully, how can you trust his review?

  3. So... by Microlith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I messed with it the other day myself.

    Photoshop competitor? Hardly.

    Nifty little tool? Sure.

    This article? Jumping to conclusions based on a beta showing that doesn't even pretend to be anything more than a test run.

  4. Blogs as news now on slashdot by Blahbooboo3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't understand why Slashdot (a place I like to think of being pretty well grounded in approaches to technology reviews) has gotten caught up in this blog nonsense. Blogs are not news. This guy who wrote this review is a nobody, and as prior replies to this posting say there are tons of flaw by the "author." Could we have a return to posting articles by real journalists in magazines with real editors? Come on Slashdot editors, don't buy into this blogosphere crap! :)

    1. Re:Blogs as news now on slashdot by solios · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't understand why Slashdot (a place I like to think of being pretty well grounded in approaches to technology reviews) has gotten caught up in this blog nonsense.

      Uh....

      Slashdot IS a blog. Run by Rob Malda and friends. It just happens to have Weapons Grade commenting capabilities. :P

    2. Re:Blogs as news now on slashdot by Tack · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I don't understand why Slashdot (a place I like to think of being pretty well grounded in approaches to technology reviews) has gotten caught up in this blog nonsense. Blogs are not news.

      Just because it's content posted in a blog doesn't mean it's not news, or not reliable. Should I avoid reading what Bruce Schneier has to say just because he posts it in a blog? Or maybe I should wait until next month for him to release his Cryptogram where he basically reposts the same stuff?

      Like any other source, you have to evaluate it based on its merits. But dismissing it out of hand because it's a blog is silly.

      Jason.

  5. What?!? by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reviewer obviously rode the short bus to school. For starters, they complain about being unable to download the file, it got corrupted, etc. I had no such troubles, obviously their computer or internet connection has issue.

    THEN, we hear about a few lame attempts to use bitmap functions of the product, comparing it to Photoshop. Not one word about the vector functions. Come on! This isn't going to be a Photoshop replacement. The whole point of Acrylic is drawing clean vector-based objects with a pressure sensitive digitizer.

    My review of the reviewer? Stay away from their blog at all costs.

  6. Re:Wine? by extagboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    The question is... Will it run on windows?

  7. Based on Creature House Expression by NathanBFH · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft's Acrylic is based off of "Creature House Expression", which they recently acquired. As it turns out, the software isn't all that similiar to Photoshop, most of the tools are actually vector based. Read a short review of the original Creature House Expression here.

  8. Misses the point! by bogaboga · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Stay as far away from Acrylic as you can...

    I thouhgt all software will have its own constituency of people it satisfies no matter how good or unfinished or unpolished it is...just like Linux distros do satisfy some. So why go on advising a potential customers to like "Stay as far away from Acrylic as you can...?" This is not fair.

  9. Pointless review by Roguelazer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The reviewer complains that his Photoshop plugins didn't work when he put them in the Acrylic folder. Did he seriously expect them to? I mean, that might be the dumbest reason not to like a product that I've ever heard...

  10. Reviewing beta software... by Aphrika · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...should simply not be allowed to be posted here; magazines make a point of not doing it, so should websites. We all seen those articles in the past slating graphics cards before helpfully pointing out that the drivers are still being working on and this doesn't seem any different.

    While I wouldn't expect Microsoft to touch Photoshop with a beta version of a graphics package, I'd prefer to reserve judgement until the packages is shrink wrapped on the shelves. As it stands, it's a cheap shot at Microsoft which is undeserved, especially if you consider the large number of open source projects which are continually being worked on that would be equally at home under the label 'dodgy beta'.

    People - Microsoft included - that put betas out tend to do so for constructive criticism, not for review.

  11. Acrylic/Expression by X_Caffeine · · Score: 4, Informative

    The writer seemed unclear as to what this software is for. It is not, as he says, "Microsoft's answer to Photoshop." It's more like Microsoft's answer to Illustrator.

    Except it's not that either. It's a repackaging of some software they bought a couple years ago called Expression, which is to Illustrator as Corel/FractalDesign Painter is to Photoshop. That is, not really a competitor, more like a companion that specializes in natural media.

    Granted, MS might be confusing the situation by trying to make the software do too much (red eye removal in a vector software? er, OK), but this isn't meant to be a Photoshop competitor at all.

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    // I will show you fear in a handful of jellybeans.
  12. As an avid user by metalhed77 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As an avid user of photoshop, and someone who is generally unfriendly to MS even I must say that this review is total crap. After reading this review I have no idea what features Acrylic has really, the only things compared are the brushes, image navigation, and plugins.

    What about things like how it performs in a digital camera workflow, prepress workflow, web design workflow, etc. I have no idea from this how this program handles color spaces, vectors, or myriad other features. Hell, this review doesn't even mention how well it supports type.

    The lack of discussion regarding acrylic's vector capabilities is the most damning thing since acrylic uses a ton of code from an acclaimed vector program (Creature House Expression) Microsoft bought from another company.

    I've been waiting for a decent review of Acrylic, but this is not it. It should also be mentioned that Adobe Photoshop has a truly massive featureset which almost no one uses in full. It's a bigass swiss army knife with different facets used by different industries. Duplicating the functionality of such a program should take a VERY long time, give MS a little break here.

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    Photos.
  13. This is NOT a Photoshop-like app... by stubear · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...and it never was. This began its life as Expression by a company called Creature House. Microsoft bought the company to get access to the unbelievably cool vector editing capabilities of Expression, likely for use in Longhorn's Avalon UI. Acrylic is Microsoft's first release of the app with their branding and small UI changes. Expression never had a good UI to begin with and Microsoft really has done nothing to improve or destroy it. However, this is, and never was a raster editing application. if it were to be compared to anything from Adobe it would be Illustrator.

  14. err, thanks by csimicah · · Score: 5, Funny

    I actually thought MS might have crippled the download at first because I tried it with Firefox. I guess they haven't stooped that low yet.

    Err, well, thanks for keeping us up to date on your paranoid fantasies, then.

  15. That was not the real problem by product+byproduct · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A blog article can be occasionally good. But here's a simple rule that slashdot should use:

    "Do not accept an article submitted by its own writer!"

    Not perfect, but at least if it's submitted by someone else, the article has got at least one positive independent review.

    I for one would never dare submitting my own stuff. The proper way is to do nothing. If it's really good someone else will discover it and submit it to slashdot.

  16. As long as we're doing reviews... by Monte · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just saw "Revenge of the Silt" or whatever it's called, and I didn't like it one bit. I don't see wy everyone is carrying around light sticks when phasers are clearly superior, and what's with that short green dude? Is he some sort of third Klingon race? He's got the forehead right, but the skin color and the height are major issues for me.

    And what's with this "Force" thing? I guess everyone is now hopped up on that chemical from "Plato's Shepchildren" and it's flying' furniture everywhere! I though that only worked on the one planet...?

    And haven't these people heard of Transporters? I mean gag me with a tribble! My advice: Stay as far away from this movie as you can.

  17. Reason he can't download by theantidote · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wonder if this reviewer was smart enough to realize that Download Accelerator Plus (that little lightning bolt in his task tray) cripples 70% of your downloads. Also it's ridden with spyware. This review is rediculous. How did it get posted?

  18. Why did /. post this? by cooldev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean, I know /. is anti-Microsoft, but this is just drivel. Did you guys post this just because it was a negative review?

    What the fuck has happened to this industry? The bias is sickening, whether it be for or against Microsoft, open source, or whatever.

    What happend to the real geeks that can look at something and judge it by merit?