Slashdot Mirror


Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger for x86 Leaked?

patr1ck writes "Mac Daily News is reporting that Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger for x86 processors has been leaked to the internet already. Apparently the version running on the development kit machines is easily transfered to run on any x86 machine. Conspiracy theorists unite: an Apple marketing scheme?"

11 of 864 comments (clear)

  1. So...http://apple.slashdot.org/users.pl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...who has the torrent?

    1. Re:So...http://apple.slashdot.org/users.pl by Woy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is slashdot. If the torrent doesn't show up pretty quickly, and its late already, it doesn't exist.

      --
      "If God created us in his own image we have more than reciprocated." - Voltaire
  2. This Will RUIN Bill Gates' Weekend by donnacha · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The OP said:
    "Conspiracy theorists unite: an Apple marketing scheme?"
    Accidental or not, you can bet that this development has MS in a cold sweat. Seriously, if it wasn't for piracy, MS would never have gained their stranglehold. Now, the sudden possibility of OSX spreading frictionlessly into Windows' marketshare signals a major change in the commercial landscape.

    1. Re:This Will RUIN Bill Gates' Weekend by donnacha · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I don't think piracy had much of an influence at that point.
      I can categorically assure you that, since their inception, there have always been more PCs running unauthorized copies of MS software than PCs entirely running authorized MS software.

      More importantly, the widespread uptake driven by piracy is what got their software to "that Point".
    2. Re:This Will RUIN Bill Gates' Weekend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      Boy, you're just fast and loose with the facts, aren't you?

      1. They weren't sold.
      2. They haven't shipped yet.
      3. They're for any higher-level developers, not WWDC attendees.
      4. They don't come with an installer, it's pre-loaded.
      5. They will be individually watermarked.

      Other than that, your post was quite helpful.

  3. As microsoft prooved... by ratta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    having a large market share is more important then being able to stop piracy...

    --
    Wondering why i am doing so strange posts? I am trying to get a "+5,Flamebait" or "-1,Insightful" rating.
  4. slashdotted, here's article text... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Report: Apple Mac OS X 10.4.1 for Intel hits piracy sites

    Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 12:14 PM EST

    "There is nothing at all that prevents the version of Mac OS X that runs on the developer transition machines from running on any PC with compatible components," Jeff Harrell writes for The Shape of Days. "The Intel-based Power Macintoshes that Apple is showing at their developer conference are based on an Intel motherboard, generic Intel graphics and off-the-shelf Pentium 4 CPUs... I estimate that we're down to a matter of hours before Mac OS X 10.4.1 for Intel hardware is available for download on Internet software piracy sites and peer-to-peer piracy networks. (Update: A reader who for obvious reasons wishes to remain anonymous just demonstrated to me that the software is, in fact, already available on Internet software piracy sites.) If I can think through this stuff, Apple's management can think through this stuff. This is the most awe-inspiring stealth marketing move I've ever seen."

    "According to reports, Apple's bundled iLife applications, major selling points for the Mac operating system, are already Intel-native and run at full speed... Given Apple's experiences with software piracy, particularly the rampant software piracy that spread developer builds of Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger all over the Internet this past spring, Apple's management from the top down knows full well that this developer preview will be in the hands of every kid with a cable modem within days of its release. Most of them will be able to install it on their own computers and run it and the full suite of iLife '05 applications at full speed, and run most existing Mac software in translation. As a result, Apple will give thousands, possibly millions, of people a taste of Mac OS X running full speed on their own PCs. Apple's giving their potential future customers a free taste, that's what they're doing. It's a try-before-you-buy deal," Harrell writes.

    Also, full article (by Jeff Harrell @ ShapeOfDays.com)...

    Mac OS X on Intel: Try before you buy?

    Item the first: Apple is not staffed entirely by idiots. This is self-evident, and it's important to what follows. Keep this in mind as we proceed.

    Item the second: The Intel-based Power Macintoshes that Apple is showing at their developer conference are based on an Intel motherboard, generic Intel graphics and off-the-shelf Pentium 4 CPUs. This information has just become public in the past few hours. (Comments I made to the contrary yesterday and on Monday were erroneous. The source who fed me that information has been sent to bed without any supper, and says to tell you he's very sorry and that it won't happen again.)

    Item the third: It's safe to assume, given the timeframe, that the developer transition kits that Apple will ship within a couple of weeks will be fundamentally similar to, if not outright identical to, the Power Macs on display at the conference.

    Item the fourth: The Power Macs on display at the show run a one-off build of Mac OS X 10.4.1 that incorporates the few necessary changes that were required to get the operating system running on the Intel hardware. This build includes Apple's bundled iLife '05 suite of applications.

    Item the fifth: Because Intel's LaGrande security technology is not yet incorporated into any shipping products, it's safe to assume that it's not present in these transition-kit computers.

    Item the sixth: Given items two through five, apart from the constraints introduced by hardware-software interfaces, there is nothing at all that prevents the version of Mac OS X that runs on the developer transition machines from running on any PC with compatible components.

    Item the seventh: Because the Intel version of Mac OS X that's being distributed to developers is a one-off build, future software patches, including all-important security patches, will not install on top of it, making it totally useless to anybody who's not a developer of Mac software.

    Item the eighth: Given it

  5. Re:It's a fake story to get web visitors by Chucker23N · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The Intel build of Mac OS X only runs on the chipset supplied in the development machines, so it won't run on *any* x86 machine."

    The development machine uses an Intel chipset, an Intel CPU, a Phoenix BIOS, an Intel GPU. This, btw, is largely different from the actual 2006+ Intel-based Macintoshes, which I'm almost positive will use an Apple chipset, an Intel CPU, an ATI or nVidia GPU, an Apple motherboard, and some custom form of BIOS, EFI (most likely) or Open Firmware. But either way: Mac OS X obviously runs on a machine that's pretty much a typical vanilla x86 machine.

    "Furthermore, outside of Adobe and a few other companies none of the other developers would have receieved their Intel Dev Kits yet."

    Jobs said two weeks. That was Monday, so it's been almost a week. Furthermore, of the thosuands of WWDC attendees, all were allowed to use development machines on site. There's no reason to believe that it was hard for them to just do a straight copy of the entire hard drive and burn it on DVD, then look into it further at home and try and make an installable OS out of it.

    "Lastly, all builds would have had digital fingerprints inserted on the CD and in vital binaries to trace any leaks (If not then Apple are stupid)."

    Because we all know that Apple uses serial numbers, copy protection and fingerprinting all over their place in Mac OS X. Not. While the server versions have a serial number, the client versions have *no* protection against piracy whatsoever. They never did, and there's no reason to believe they will now.

    "This would mean any company stupid enough to let their employees leak it would be in dire trouble."

    Why do you assume large companies, when small shareware houses like Panic are at WWDC as well?

  6. Serial Number: SJOBS_000001 by drxray · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've extracted the serial number from the version I downloaded, and it's SJOBS_000001. Whatever could it mean?

    --
    Slashdot - Mutual Assured Discussion
  7. Re:Who Has The Torrent? by petrus124 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think the question all mac users are asking is, will this run on Virtual PC???

  8. I just downloaded it... by meisterk · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... it definitely feels snappier.