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REALbasic Linux IDE Public Beta Available

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the it-all-seems-so-basic dept.

An anonymous reader writes "A brand-new visual development environment for Linux is in public beta now. REALbasic 2005 for Linux Standard Edition will be available for free when it ships in August. The company has also done away with their email registration requirement. Download the public beta now from REAL Software."

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  1. If you'd rather have a look first... by mogrify · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://realsoftware.com/products/

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    1. Re:If you'd rather have a look first... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      Why do I suspect this won't last long in its current form?

      Perhaps because you don't know anything about REALBasic? It's been around since the late 90's plugging away in its niche. It may not "take off" but it's not going away either.

  2. Re:RealBASIC by parvenu74 · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to the RealBasic website, the standard version for Linux is going to be free "because the linux community expects free stuff." Don't expect the source to be open, however.

  3. Good News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is good news.

    A while back I wrote to the Realbasic sales that they should offer another cheaper linux product -- one that allowed you to make binaries that required a valid Realbasic runtime. Thus, you might pay $50 or $100 for a compiler and IDE, but anyone else who wanted to run your code would also have to pay $50 or $100. I suggested to them that this would better allow hobbiests to build up a set of useful code that would make Real Basic much more desireable. I don't think they understood what I was trying to say.

    This is a better solution, in my opinion. I don't like the basic language but a lot of people use it; if it is popular, someone will write an open source compiler for it.

  4. When are they gonna learn? by VStrider · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ok, I read the product description, saw the screenshots, and it looked like a really nice IDE. I know its proprietary and all, but I was eager to try it, even though since I moved to C/C++ I haven't touched VB for years. Anyway, the download finished, and I started the app.

    Then all of a sudden the app reminded me why I don't like proprietary software. A window pops up asking me for a licence or key with an option to continue on the demo. I chose this one.
    "Retrieving Demo key..." comes up...and I wait..."The key could not be retrieved cause the server timed out". Tried again to no avail. The software refused to start, so I happilly removed it from my disk.

    the server was probably /.ed but why do I need to retrieve a key for a demo product is beyond me. All they managed to do is annoy people who thought of trying their product.

    If you didn't want us to try your demo, then why do you advertise it on slashdot?
    If you did want us to try it, then why do you feel you need to fortify your demo with licence keys?

    You want your demo to reach as many people as possible, and this is just not going to happen. Good luck with your bussiness model, you'll need it.

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    1. Re:When are they gonna learn? by gellenburg · · Score: 3, Informative

      As someone who was part of the RB'2005 beta program I can at least explain to you why you have to get a key from the server. ;-)

      The linux version is a PUBLIC BETA. Expect new (beta) releases quite often.

      Each demo key (which is really a beta key) has a finite expiration period and once it expires will not be renewed. This is to encourage you to always be running the latest version when you report problems.

      As someone who has just upgraded to RB'2005 Professional for the Mac today, I *can* assure you that your actual license does NOT expire.

      Also, you may receive different licenses depending on what testing is occuring. Standard features as opposed to Pro features, etc.

  5. Re:Yeah, this is what we want... by Electrum · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...people who are barely able to understand the concept of good programming practices having access to a tool which supports none of these

    Nice FUD:
    REALbasic 2005 is a modern, object-oriented language and environment, so C++ developers feel right at home. Familiar concepts such as polymorphism, object references and exception handling are supported with a clean, modern syntax.
    You can write bad code in any language. However, REALbasic fully supports good programming practices.
  6. Re:They understood by Electrum · · Score: 2, Informative
    If the realbasic system would compile into 3 installers (mac/linux/windows) that'd be very handy.

    It does, if you get the professional version:

    REALbasic Professional Edition lets you create software for Windows, Linux and Macintosh from a single code base.
    I'd certainly shell out $50 to be able to write and distribute cross-platform gui apps.

    It's more expensive than that, but well worth it considering that it's the only easy to use, cross platform development environment that creates native, single executable programs.
  7. People are not happy with this release. by CyricZ · · Score: 2, Informative

    There has been very negative discussion of RB 2005 at the comp.lang.basic.realbasic newsgroup. There are many people who aren't happy about the path that has been taken. The new "development environment-as-a-web browser" paradigm they embraced falls flat on its face, according to some. And there have been scathing suggestings that RB 2005 has lost all of the uniqeness REALbasic'ers were used to in the past. Now it's just a lousy Visual Basic clone, according to some.

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