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Reports of VHS's Death Highly Exaggerated

aicrules writes "What does it take to ensure that a technology choice will remain relevant and available to the general public? Well, being sold by Wal-Mart is certainly pretty high on that list. According to a CNN/Money article, Wal-Mart Stores will continue to sell VHS tapes for as long as its customers want them. With Best Buy, Circuit City, and Target all dropping sales of the VHS medium, how long can VHS hold out? What is the major reason for people still sticking with VHS?"

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  1. VCR vs DVD Player by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a poll in the article asking " Are you planning to replace your VCR with a DVD player? "

    I guess that sums up why VCR and VHS tapes are still selling, because while DVD players are pretty advanced and cheap right now, DVD recorders are still expensive to most households, and what are consumers going to do with their precious VHS tapes?

    What is required is a VHS+DVD recorder with easy to use interface to transfer VHS to DVD, that'll be the first step to move consumers away from VHS.

    I'm moving all my CDs to DVDs. It's pretty easy to do that with a software, and let's not forget that my DVD writer is also capable of reading old CDs, that's why I didn't think so much while buying a DVD writer.

    I suppose if technology moves too quickly without sufficient transitional period, older technology might get a chance to stay longer.

    1. Re:VCR vs DVD Player by JeTmAn81 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As much as I hate to advocate giving the MPAA more money, those "enhanced" DVD versions of old movies, in almost all cases...ARE enhanced. The picture quality is much better, the movie will usually feature a surround sound audio track or two, there might be some extra features, and best of all...it'll be in widescreen (if the original movie was filmed in widescreen). So in this case, they're actually worth what you plunk down, at least if you care about seeing movies the right way.

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  2. Blanks? by XanC · · Score: 4, Informative
    The article doesn't make clear whether we're talking about movies on VHS or the actual blank VHS tapes.

    The advantages of the blanks should be clear enough... It's still not cheap/easy for most folks to record TV any other way.

    1. Re:Blanks? by Ark42 · · Score: 4, Insightful


      It's also pretty annoying to fast forward a DVD when the stupid thing just puts up a big red X icon and forces you to watch crap you don't care about.

  3. the customer is always right by R.D.Olivaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it remains profitable to sell it then I don't see why it will disappear. Some shops might find out that the demand is not worth stocking VHS but on the other hand some stores might come up that only cater for the VHS clients. Somehow a la Vinyl. If the demand persists.

    1. Re:the customer is always right by sockonafish · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The market for vinyl still exists because there are some audiophiles who believe the sound quality of vinyl is superior to that of CDs. No one can reasonably hold the belief that VHS is of higher quality than DVD.

    2. Re:the customer is always right by neil.pearce · · Score: 4, Funny

      blather on about burning in their digital optical cables...

      Is that before or after they've determined the optimum direction for each such cable?

  4. Here's two good reasons by DaveJay · · Score: 4, Informative

    1: My wife is pregnant with twins, and as much as I'd like to get a DVD of the ultrasounds, they spend their money on staying abreast with the latest childcare technologies, just like they should. So I need VHS to take those ultrasounds home with me (just did this today, in fact);

    2: My grandparents (in their late 80s) were very reluctant to accept VCR technology; moving them to DVD will be impossible. And we want them to see the ultrasounds. ;)

    1. Re:Here's two good reasons by terrymr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't post on slashdot pretending to have a life, nobody will believe you.

  5. Is this a serious question? by Luminous · · Score: 5, Informative

    For myself and a dozen million other people, VHS is still the cheapest easiest way to record TV programs. Yeah, yeah, I'm behind the tech curve because I don't TIVO or digitally record tv. I don't get tv via bit torrents and honestly, I just can't bring myself to spend the money or the time learning all of that. VCR. Put in Tape. Hit Record. Done.

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    1. Re:Is this a serious question? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I just can't bring myself to spend the money or the time learning all of that. VCR. Put in Tape. Hit Record. Done.

      More accurate version:

      VCR: Find show in guide. Enter show time information into user interface that has not been improved since mammoths roamed the Earth. Look for blank tape. Stare at tape and wonder what was on it. Put in tape. Hit record. Hope scheduled time for show does not change if it's a recurring recording for a series.

      Tivo. Find show in guide. Hit record. Done.

  6. Reason? Money. by Swamii · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is the major reason for people still sticking with VHS?

    We'll always have our VCR because my wife has nearly every Disney movie ever made on VHS (sad, I know). And since we have a VCR, we can get our 5 year old VHS tapes that are often cheaper than DVDs. And honestly, they hold up quite a bit better with a 5 year old than DVDs and CDs do.

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  7. I know a fanatic... by SharpFang · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know a fanatic who refuses to watch movies on computer screen. He records Divx to VHS tapes and then watches them on TV, from the player.
    Perverted, isn't it?

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  8. Because it works! by Lispy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I got my VHS 6 years ago when I moved out into my first flat. Naturally Iit had to be the cheapest one available. It contains one tape since half a year now and records my daily dose of Trek.

    Easy. Programmed it once never runs out of tape. At the end it just rewinds and starts over. Quality is ok, as I don't need high definition to watch nice scifi stories before bedtime. I won't replace it unless it breaks.

    I really like digital HD-recorders a la Tivo but I don't think my mum would throw away her extensive opera collection on VHS just yet.

    I will replace mine, however, if it dies with a DVR. If, by the time, there is still one out there with a sane DRM policy that is...

  9. Reason? by anonicon · · Score: 5, Funny

    "What is the major reason for people still sticking with VHS?"

    Easy, it gives me warmer, deeper, and groovier playback on my vintage VHS machine, compared to the over-produced, sterile playback of a DVD.

    Say all you want, but I can just see and hear the difference, the resonance, the WARMTH. I just love tubes. ;-)

  10. Re:Whats a VCR? by AccUser · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's where your kids keep the toast they didn't want to eat just yet.

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  11. May major reason... by bc90021 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...is because Han shoots first like I remember! ;)

  12. You need to ask????? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What is the major reason for people still sticking with VHS?

    Let's see. The vast majority of households already have VCR technology.

    There is a huge installed base of players and media.

    It's the only recording technology the average home consumer understands and is willing to invest time in. My mom can record on a VCR. The letter PVR and DVR don't mean anything to her.

    It's only in the last few years that 1.44" floppy drives are no longer included in PCs by default. I personally haven't had data on a floppy in quite some time, I've still recently used 'em for boot disks.

    TV stations have been using video cassette to archive video for as long as we've had them.

    Why does someone always get shocked by the fact that technology which has been massively accepted by the consumer market doesn't suddenly go away overnight just because someone else builds something new??

    Hell, how many people do you know who own manual (or even electric) type-writers.

    Despite what you've read in Wired magazine, a new digital technology doesn't automatically obviate and replace and older, clunkier technology. Sometimes the sheer inertia of that old technology takes a while to get rid of.

    Heck, how many Windows 3.11 or Window 95 boxes are still out there?

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  13. Re:fuck the gernal public by ErikTheRed · · Score: 5, Funny
    fuck them good and hard
    Microsoft already has a patent on this.
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  14. Why must we attempt to force upgrades on people? by scooterh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I want things I buy to last a long time. I am thrilled when I spend $100 on something and it doesn't need to be replaced in a year. There's a reason that earlier generations of American families had more money (well, net worth) than current generations, and while it is a GREAT oversimplification to boil it down to consumer tendencies, it is certainly one of the possible suspects.

    I can't tell you how often I walk into a house and see a 20 year old TV or a 100 year old piece of furniture. I also can't tell you the last I thought to say "Man, that particular digital component was really well made...I shouldn't have to replace that for decades (not "years" or "months").

    Older manufactured equipment was simply made better, and some of us prefer it to spending more of our liquidity on the latest and greatest (which, as stated above, tends to be more poorly made and hence, more quickly replaced).

    If this post sounds a little "that's the way it was in my day, and WE LIKED IT", too bad....it's simply a reflection of my own anecdotal experience and preferences.

  15. Re:well... by nocomment · · Score: 4, Informative

    also, as someone who is leaving work early right now to go to an ultra-sound to find out the sex of my incoming baby, they will record the ultrasound for you, but only if you bring your own VHS tape.

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  16. ads by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the main reasons I prefer to watch movies at home rather than the theater is because of the ads. I don't want to sit thru 15 minutes of ads before I watch a movie. Guess what? I've never bought a VCR tape of a movie that has ads on it. Guess what? I've never tried to fast forward through something at the beginning of a VCR tape and have my player tell me "NO! the maker of this DVD insists that you have to watch an ad first! Just because you bought it does not mean you can skip the ads! Sucker!"

    I record TV shows to DVD and buy shows on DVD that I know don't have ads on them, but for the most part I prefer VCR. I'd rather forgo the convenience of not having to rewind if it means I am not supporting a system that will eventually be used to force me to play more ads in my home. I'm sick to death of all the inane chatter and insipid "buy me and you'll be cool" shit. I'm sure as hell not going to pay for more of it.

    Oh yeah, and VCR tapes, despite being more expensive to manufacture, are cheaper (even if you factor in the cost of a blank DVD for me to encode it on).

  17. Re:well... by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to About.com, it affects only a small % of discs. Of course, like all digital data, replication is essential to keeping eternal life (despite the best efforts of the MPAA to stop you ;) ). More about the overalarming cries of DVD rot from PC Magazine, Manifest Technologies, and Enterprise Networks and Servers.

    Your 20 year old VHS tapes should have suffered significant quality loss by now. It doesn't have to be defective to go bad; VHS slowly goes bad on its own.

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  18. Two good features of VHS by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Interesting
    1. VHS tapes don't force you to watch an anti-piracy message (or advertising) with the fast-forward button disabled
    2. VHS tapes come with a 'memory' feature that tracks where you last watched them. Watch a movie half way, eject the tape, watch another movie and return to the first one and you can pick up exactly where you left off. The memory automatically follows the video tape so if your VHS player dies in the middle of a movie then when you get another you can still continue from where you left off. (Anyone who's ever accidentally jumped to the next chapter while watching Mulholland Drive on DVD will appreciate this feature.)
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