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AnKsT wrote to mention an article on NASA's site about creating and manipulating glass in space. From the article: "In microgravity...you don't need a container. In Day's initial experiments, the melt--a molten droplet about 1/4 inch in diameter--was held in place inside a hot furnace simply by the pressure of sound waves emitted by an acoustic levitator. With that acoustic levitator, explains Day, 'we could melt and cool and melt and cool a molten droplet without letting it touch anything.' As Day had hoped, containerless processing produced a better glass. To his surprise, though, the glass was of even higher quality than theory had predicted."

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  1. *Crash!* by Reaperducer · · Score: 3, Informative

    And best of all... In space, no one can hear you break the glass.

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  2. Mr. Day? more Mr. Dooms Day by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only reason he wants to create glass in space is to one day fashion a giant magnifying glass in space. After calibrating it on ants, he plans to bring the world to its knees.

  3. purity by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Several SF authors have predicted that electronics manufacturing would eventually move to space because it'd be easier to produce purer semiconductor crystals in microgravity. Maybe the time has come?

    1. Re:purity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not using this technique. TFA says the reason glass is so much more pure in microgravity is because it is RESISTANT to crystallization under such conditions.

    2. Re:purity by joeybagadonuts · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yea, but the shipping costs are just crazy!

    3. Re:purity by myowntrueself · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "because it is RESISTANT to crystallization under such conditions"

      Heres a thought.

      Will this sort of effect be important in hibernation and cryogenic storage of human beings?

      Think about it like this, we develop a way to freeze people and thaw them out, test it for a few years here on Earth, deploy the system for space trials and find that the human body reacts quite differently to crystalisation under microgravity.

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    4. Re:purity by Rei · · Score: 3, Informative

      That would be a dream - under 1900$/kg? The shuttle cost estimates vary, but are usually over 15,000$/kg. ESA bulk launches are 10,000$/kg. Bulk Russian and Chinese rocket launches are around 7,000$/kg. SpaceX thinks that by the time they get to their Falcon V, they'll be down to almost 2500$/kg (which would be truly incredible - time will tell if they can pull it off).

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  4. Build a better BONG by drewzhrodague · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder how long it will take humans to use this technology to build a better bong. Think about it -- bongs made in space...

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    1. Re:Build a better BONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dude, I was just thinking about how much I would pay for something like that... Then I got to thinking, about thinking, about thinking, about thinking about this glass... and then I got like real confused and decided to use a pipe instead.

      Nachos anyone?

  5. What a relief! by ScaryMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a good thing they figured out a way to make glass in space. Maybe now they come overcome the titanic production hurdles involved with producing glass here on Earth, and bring down its astronomic cost.

  6. Take THAT, space science nay-sayers! by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting


    This article is a perfect example of the sort of technological advances that will be possible when we establish a space habitat capable of sustaining industrial production. Microgravity is a condition that is almost impossible to replicate here at the bottom of the gravity well, and we are just beginning to realize the applications.

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    1. Re:Take THAT, space science nay-sayers! by geomon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Although this article is a couple of years old, the scientific community is not necessarily convinced of microgravity's promise.

      This is one result that may or may not scale to industrial production.

      I'm not closed minded, but I am skeptical.

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  7. Why this matters by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 3, Informative
    No, it's not to make purer martini glasses for snobs who demand only the very best. From the article:

    "But why is that important? What's wrong with glass made of silica?

    For windows silica is just fine. But glass made from other chemical compositions offers a panoply of unexpected properties. For example, there are "bioactive glasses" that can be used to repair human bones. These glasses eventually dissolve when their work is done. On the other hand, Day has developed glasses which are so insoluble in the body that they are being used to treat cancer by delivering high doses of radiation directly to a tumor site."

    Cool beans!

    1. Re:Why this matters by Brandybuck · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The latter sounds like something my company helped work on. The medicine is encapsulated in microscopic beads, which are then injected into the bloodstream. You then image the region of interest with ultrasound. When you have it focused where you want it, hit the button, the frequency changes, bubbles shatter, and medicine is delivered precisely where you want it.

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  8. Up-to-date by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    April 14, 2003... Slashdot is really a frontrunner. Next they'll report that Bush won a second term in office...

  9. Serious topic by Quentusrex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only a few serious answers so far, but do you realize how important this kind of work could be? He has proven a concept. Now it is much more likely for a corperation to invest in space stations to build their products. I'm not saying it'll happen within the next year, but that is it closer. Now corperations will feel the investment is less risky with much more payoff. Can you imagine having your CPU made with the parts so much more pure then they are now? Engineers could build smaller chips because they wouldn't have to account for the impurities that naturally come in the materials.

  10. Re:Purer carbon nanotubes too? by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Informative


    Is it easier to purify carbon nanotubes in microgravity too?

    Short answer: yes.

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  11. Container-less Glass by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Funny

    In microgravity...you don't need a container.

    Right. Until there's an accident when someone is too busy playing with their velco stripe and a blob of molten glass goes into someone's eye on the other side of the station. If that happens over the state of California, Cal-OSHA will be all over the space station like Bill Clinton with an intern. They would have to shut down the space program until it was safe go back into space -- again.

  12. Re:Purer carbon nanotubes too? by PakProtector · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is it easier to purify carbon nanotubes in microgravity too?

    Short answer: yes.


    Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeees.

    (Note: Length and pitch of the Long Answer may be affected by answerer's velocity relative to yourself.)

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  13. Cost of Space Products by AtomicSnarl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of the space products has been Microspheres several magnitudes more precise than those made on earth. Other of the NASA Microgravity projects can lead directly to ultrapure chip development for use in, for example, pinhead size medical and scientific gas chromatographs and mass spectrometers.

    Because the microgravity should allow for high chip yield and high quality, the remaining issue is cost of production.

    Allowing for $10,000 per Kg (source) for a mature launch/return system like the Saturn 5, Delta, or Titan series, a 100 Kg furnace containing 10 Kg of product would cost $1,000,000 to orbit. If the output is 0.01 gram chips at 95% yield, that gives you 950,000 chips. If you can sell them for a bit over $1.05 per chip, you're in the money. At only $5000/Kg, you are way ahead!

    The medical market alone for $5-10 one-shot broad spectrum biochemical testers would easily absorb the 10 million-plus that could be produced with monthly launches.

    1. Insert sample into tester
    2. Plug tester into USB/Firewire port
    3. Read results from software support package
    4. (Profit!)

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  14. Re:That might not be possible. by vandemar · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Indeed--

    Also intriguing to space researchers is fluoride glass. A blend of zirconium, barium, lanthanum, sodium and aluminum, this type of glass (also known as "ZBLAN") is a hundred times more transparent than silica-based glass. It would be exceptional for fiber optics.

    A fluoride fiber would be so transparent, says Day, that light shone into one end, say, in New York City, could be seen at the other end as far away as Paris. With silicon glass fibers, the light signal degrades along the way.

  15. More geeks should learn about glass blowery. by CyricZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Glass blowery is an art form that all true geeks should appreciate. It combines the best of chemistry with the best of blowery and some of the most complex mathematics. Indeed, using fairly advanced physics, calculus and fluid dynamics it is possible to blow shapes such as the Archimedes spiral and the Lagrange multiloop. While most traditional glass blowers do not have the mathematics or physics background necessary to calculate the algorithm to blow awe inspiring shapes, most geeks do. It's too bad that more geeks aren't into the art form. Their talents could lead to fantastic, abstract creations!

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  16. Re:what a cliche by cagle_.25 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the I, Robot stories, robots were most emphatically designed not to be weapons. Your rules would allow robot weaponry.

    I'm not so sure that I, Robot portrays the rules as a "bad idea" but rather a source of inconsistency -- and therefore a source of great story material.

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  17. Transparent Aluminium by vhogemann · · Score: 3, Funny

    For those that didn't catch the bait left by the original poster...

    Transparent Aluminium is a fictional material from the Star Trek universe.

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