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First Controllable Solar Sail Launched Today

clustermonkey writes "The first controllable solar sail was launched earlier today from a Russian sub in the Barents Sea. The Planetary Society, founded by Carl Sagan, organized the project and were funded by Cosmos Studios, founded by Sagan's widow. There have been 2 other solar sail deployments by others, but this will be the first to attempt controlled flight. The sail is scheduled to deploy June 25." All may not be well, though: Snot Locker writes "The Cosmos 1 Weblog is showing that, although the launch initially looked successful, they can't seem to find it or hear it. Bummer. Previous Slashdot coverage on the Cosmos 1 Solar Sail mission can be found here."

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  1. Deja Vu by rufusdufus · · Score: 4, Informative

    I swear I remember this happening before.

  2. Already failed according to Russian news by marat · · Score: 2, Informative

    here

    In short, at 83rd second engine stopped working for unknown reason, and the whole thing is currently being intensively searched for. Probably Russian ICBMs are not so good for launching satellites after all.

  3. Possible bad news: by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is from Reuters, via CNN:

    Tracking stations failed to pick up signals from an experimental solar-driven orbiter launched on Tuesday from a Russian submarine, raising the prospect the mission had failed.

    This includes stations in Russia's Kamchatka peninsula, the Marshall Islands, Alaska, the Czech Republic, and two stations outside Moscow.

    Hopefully it's a temporary problem, or just a miscalculated orbit.

  4. Endevour... by Robotron23 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Its certainly apparant that this sail is a huge step forward in space exploration as a whole. Whats even better is that the entire project cost around $4 million to get on the ground.

    For those wandering what the mission will entail exactly, its quite simple :

    Firstly, the craft must enter orbit.
    After a short time, the aluminium solar sails will unfurl.
    The speed and trajectory will be continually monitored as per the estimates of the Cosmos crew.

    Lastly, the craft will keep heading outwards from low-earth orbit, thus concluding the mission and proving that solar sails are a viable and worthwhile method of space exploration.

  5. Interstellar - no solar wind or enough protons? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wonder how well this kind of propulsion will work in interestellar space where there is no solar wind, let alone enough protons from one direction.

    Let's visualize someone on a bike. They stand at the top of a hill (solar radiation effect, closer to the sun, more there is). They peddle enough to get going (ion drive or solar sail). Then they pick up speed rapidly as they go down the hill.

    Once they reach the bottom of the hill, where there isn't enough material to push them they fold up the sail - or in our bike version, they let the mechanism keep them moving forward.

    During this time the sail is folded - like the biker bent forward to lower wind resistance. As they approach the destination, based on speed, solar radiation - or for a bike, based on how steep and high the next hill is - they eventually unfurl the sail.

    Pushx5 + Pushx4 + Pushx3 + Pushx2 + Pushx1 ... coast ... -Pushx0.01 + -Pushx0.02 + -Pushx0.03 + -Pushx0.04 + -Pushx5 + -Pushx6 and you're there.

    The advantage over a bike is that as you go up the hill (into the solar radiation), you get pulled in by gravity and since your sails are collapsed there is not much push back.

    Simple.

    Yes, I know it's not linear, I'm just trying to help you visualize it. We can deal with the space-time continuum effects another time as well.

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    1. Re:Interstellar - no solar wind or enough protons? by mikael · · Score: 2, Informative

      Read up on "interstellar space". There is a low density of hydrogen gas out there - it wasn't pulled in by the gravitational pull of the stars when they formed, and it wasn't pushed out by the solar wind when the star achieved fusion.

      So when you're craft is going at 200,000 mph, every little hydrogen atom is going to blow a chunk out of your craft and slow down your velocity. So it would make sense to reduce the surface area of your craft, in the direction that it is travelling.

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    2. Re:Interstellar - no solar wind or enough protons? by cahiha · · Score: 2, Informative

      Solar sails are not intended to be propelled by solar wind, they are propelled by light. For interstellar voyages, you'd propel the solar sail actively (with a laser). That technology will also be tested as part of this experiment.

    3. Re:Interstellar - no solar wind or enough protons? by helioquake · · Score: 2, Informative

      A couple of minor comments here.

      There is a low density of hydrogen gas out there

      Yes, but it's not that low. Actually higher density than the bubble that the Solar system lives inside (as you say, solar wind clears the way). Solar wind is less denser than interstellar space, believe or not.

      it wasn't pushed out by the solar wind

      They were pushed out. It is just that the gas pressue of interstellar space is in equilibrium with the gas pressure of solar wind. Pushing didn't cease to exist all of sudden, you know?

      The rest of points I totally agree. I wanted to mod you up, but the two points above bothered me a bit.

  6. Endevour [sic] by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 2, Informative


    You forgot one step:

    Lastly, the solar wind will shred the sails of this craft, as we have not yet developed a material light enough for solar sails, yet robust enough to withstand long-term exposure to the solar wind.

    Still perfectly valid for proof-of-concept, but a good long way from practical application.

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  7. Re:Always the risk. by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to know what the people organizing the mission are thinking, the Planetary Society's Latest Update section is a good spot to go. As it stands, the following has been stated:

    * The signal didn't dissapear suddenly when the kick fired - it became irregular, and then dissapeared after three minutes.

    * The signal was received clearly after launch for six minutes.

    * There were irregular readings coming from the Volna; however, clearly the craft detached, or there wouldn't have been six minutes of signal.

    * STRATCOM can't find the satellite. That doesn't mean that it's gone - only that it's not where they told them to look. Likewise, the lack of ground station reception could mean the same thing. It could be in the wrong orbit, which is actually a more common phenominon than a total craft loss.

    * The chance of signal acquisition at the early two stations was only considered marginal to begin with. The big test will be at the permanent stations in Paska Ves, and especially the Tarusa and Bear lakes.

    * Not receiving a signal from a spacecraft during the first few orbits is "not extremely unusual". Nonetheless, they do sound a bit nervous.

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  8. Too early to say if Cosmos has failed by n54 · · Score: 1, Informative

    According to the official timeline the first high-quality ground station contact will be approximately Jun 22 04:23 UTC (Jun 21 21:23 PDT) - that is 8 h 37 m into the launch, i.e. it hasn't happened yet. I guess someone got a bit overly eager to report news or simply didn't have a clue or something similar in the time-honored Slashdot fashion...

    To quote from the official timeline (which I will not link to on Slashdot for obvious reasons):
    "First high-quality ground station contacts: Tarusa and Bear Lakes On the spacecraft's fifth orbit around the Earth, its orbital path will finally carry it high across the sky as seen from the Russian ground stations. These contacts should provide good communication from the spacecraft."

    As to the passes and communication attempts that have been attempted so far have been attempts during low-quality situations. It sure would have been nice if they went through but it's too early to say either way yet.

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  9. Re:Interstellar by cahiha · · Score: 4, Informative

    Solar sails aren't driven by solar wind or protons, they are driven by light (photons).

    An interstellar voyage might be possible, but would probably require a laser or microwave system aimed at the sail for much of its journey (a brief "push" like that is also being tested as part of this experiment).

  10. Not looking good! by Brett+Buck · · Score: 2, Informative

    The report of data suddenly looking "noisy" about the time the final stage fired is a pretty classic bad news situation. The sequence is usually: "looking good!" "clean separation!" "5-4-3-2-1,kick motor ignition" data lost followed by, a short time later "radar indicates multiple targets..." Not that I am hoping, but it's a really bad sign. Brett

    1. Re:Not looking good! by Detritus · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to this, all of the rocket's stages were powered by storable liquid fuel engines. So it should be immune to the inherent risks of a solid fuel kick motor. An engineer once told me that a certain percentage of kick motors just blow up, despite x-ray inspections and other tests.

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  11. Spaceflight now has the scoop by fname · · Score: 4, Informative

    Spaceflight Now has posted a story about the launch. The 1st stage failed after 83 seconds.

  12. Re:Interstellar by MrMista_B · · Score: 2, Informative

    What happens if you can only shed half your speed by the time you get to the planet?

    Quite simply, you enter orbit.

  13. developing story - craft detected by wronski · · Score: 2, Informative
    This is just in on http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/06/21/russia.co smos.reut/index.html/
    PASADENA, California (Reuters) -- Cosmos 1, the first solar sail-powered spacecraft, appears to be "alive" and sending signals to tracking stations but could be in a lower orbit than planned, said mission experts in California, late on Tuesday.
    Telemetry data received by three tracking stations in the Pacific Ocean, Russia and the Czech Republic seemed to show that Cosmos 1 made it into orbit, mission staff at the Planetary Society said.
    Mission controllers discovered after reviewing telemetry data from the stations that the craft had signaled its passage during what had been believed to be several hours of radio silence, said Planetary Society co-founder Bruce Murray.
    "The good news is we have reason to believe it's alive and in orbit," Murray said. "The bad news is we don't know where it is."