Windows Users Ignoring LUA Security
blankify writes "eWeek is running a story about the least-privilege, no-admin option available in Windows (2000/XP/2003) that has been mostly ignored by end users. From the article: '"To the average user, the notion of non-admin is abstract and obscure," said Michael Howard, a senior security program manager in Microsoft Corp.'s security business and technology unit. "Most users just don't know they can set up least-privilege accounts in Windows today, and that's just a sad reality."'"
If their software doesn't work in least priveleged mode doesn't it defeat the whole purpose of the system?
Too bad you posted as AC because that's exactly why I don't use it.
A limited account in linux still allows you to do most things without a hitch. Plus, when you need root access, you can do that within the logged on account without logging off.
I also tried setting up my SO's account as limited but she ran into problems all the time. It is hard to explain (excuse?) something as a feature when it is such a pain in the ass.
Hopefully, they will get this one thing right in Longhorn.
The preceding message was based on actual events. Only the names, locations and events have been changed.
Or the fact that 1/2 the programs only work with Admin rights.
Lets not forget software just failing to work. Most third party applications simply will not run correctly in an LUA environment. Honestly, most MS software couldn't run this way before 2000. I run LUA and I have to use runas admin on far too many applications; how is that really LUA? And lets not forget that running IE with reduced rights will also cause many IE plugins and any IStream handoffs (like Media Player) to fail without explanation.
Of course, I totally agree that they claim of lack of user awareness when it is really a lack of MS support. Microsoft has also done nothing to simplify this issue for developers. There are no simple "test and prompt for elevation" routines. It's not a general Windows logo requirement; in fact it's buried in one paragraph in the enterprise logo. And to top it all off, aside from a few proactive devs making blog entries, there's been no attempt to educate users.
Way to go MS, blame user apathy for your own poor performance.
Try it yourself some time. Running windows without admin rights is a nightmare. About 2/3 of my programs won't operate (I'm a software developer) at all. I've fixed almost everyones computers that knows me (I hate being free tech support but anything for a friend) and stupid programs like a damn cat breeding program this one girl had wouldn't run without admin rights (after fixing her computer 3-4 times I tried the No Admin route to no avail).
Until programs run without being admin this whole arguement is pointless.
OS X does it perfectly.