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Java to Appear in Next-Gen DVD players

Ivan P. writes "Sun Microsystems's Java technology will be built into Blu-ray DVD players, executives said on Monday during Sun's JavaOne trade show, a development that advances the technology in the consumer electronics market for which Sun originally developed the software. 'Java will be used for control menus, interactive features, network services and games,' said Yasushi Nishimura, director of Panasonic's Research and Development Company of America. 'This means that all Blu-ray Disc player devices will be shipped equipped with Java.'" Next stop, annoying Flash intros.

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  1. slashdot finally through by SparafucileMan · · Score: 0, Troll

    thanks for telling me what NOT to buy.

  2. Java IS sux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    It doesn't matter how good a language it is, if all it is capable of delivering are pig ugly end-user applications.

    Note: the majority of people couldn't give a hang about back-end, so called 'enterprise' solutions with Java)

    Azureus,
    LimeWire,
    Neo Office

    are all butt-ugly with sluggish, slow and buggy interfaces. The promise of Java on the desktop is long since over. People realized that it just didn't deliver. No surprise then they are desperately trying to find other uses for it like embedding it into DVD Players.

  3. Re:Misconceptions, as usual by AuMatar · · Score: -1, Troll

    Because Java is slow, takes a lot of processor cycles, and eats memory like there's no tomorrow. This is going to seriously hinder blu-ray adaption. A Java implementation means at least 30% more processor power and memory than otherwise needed. You may luck out and get the memory as a freebie due to powers of 2, but you won't get the processor cheaply. Thats at least $3 a unit. For those of you not in embedded fields, thats a *huge* amount- at 1M units a month its $3M/month, or $36M/yr. Consumer devices usually look to cut pennies- where I work, it requires several layers of management to add 5 cents worth of hardware, because volumes multiply the cost so high. That will put HD-DVD at a higher margin, leaving a lot of manufacturers on the side of HD.

    Of course, the other question is: why do we need those annoying animated menus at all? Just give me a clean, normal menu and we have no reason to deal with Java.

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  4. The only appliances that are fit for Java: by VeganBob · · Score: 1, Troll

    - Toasters
    - Microwaves
    - Refridgerators

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  5. Re:Misconceptions, as usual by The_Wilschon · · Score: 0, Troll

    Well, for one thing, there's the issue of freedom.

    Then there's the fact that it is slow when compared to most other languages which are used for designing large scale systems (C, C++, etc.).

    Then also, it is viewed as a favorite of suits, and therefore by (admittedly somewhat childish) knee-jerk reaction, it is derided by geeks.

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  6. It's closer than you think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    This describes the new RJ-11/phonejack "standard" that will be hitting the shelves very soon now, and will require a phoneline to play a DVD.

  7. Applet Started by peggus · · Score: 0, Troll

    So now when I pop the DVD in it will say "applet started" and then nothing will happen.

  8. Thanks, Java! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Thanks for letting me know which DVD players to avoid.

    "Hey, y'know, this app is just too fast. Let's add Java to it. We can be cutting edge and slow as shit all at the same time!"

  9. Re:Java and Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    show me a version of java that isnt a piece of crap and I might admit you have a point.

  10. In Soviet Russia... by noidentity · · Score: -1, Troll

    ...DVD player controls YOU!

    Errr, wait, that's everywhere, with the unskippable intro crap and menus.

  11. Re:Great! (Not) by metamatic · · Score: 0, Troll
    Java was DESIGNED for embedded systems, first and foremost.

    As an aside, I've always found that hard to believe, given that Java's basic types don't include any machine data types such as byte or word.

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    In fact, as I recall Java didn't have unsigned bytes at all for the first couple of major releases. Embedded systems my ass.

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