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Nvu 1.0 Released
An anonymous reader writes "Version 1.0 of Nvu has been released. Nvu is a standalone WYSIWYG HTML editor and a continuation of Mozilla Composer. As one would expect for a Mozilla-based product, it is fully Web standards-compliant and all the code will soon be available at mozilla.org. Nvu 1.0 can be downloaded for Linux, Mac OS X and Windows. Further details are available at MozillaZine. Slashdot reported on the first beta of Nvu way back in February 2003."
Personally, I have always found WYSIWYG editors to produce very messy code. It's refreshing to hear that Nvu actually supports standards, but like most other WYSIWYG editors, it's produced code looks a bit messy. I think I may just be a stickler for good looking code but maybe because it's hard to add PHP and other such code when it's hard to navigate the initial generated code. Vim is still my editor of choice :)
about the only thing I find myself wanting in an html editor is source code highlighting. everything else is just fluff.
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I'm sitting here staring at the text on the download page, and I'd swear I'm seeing something not unlike JPEG artifacts around the bold text, except that I'm sure it's not a graphic. Eventually I realized there's a faint vertical band image behind some of the text, and that my vision wasn't going all screwy. If making users question their eyesight is one of the great new features they offer, then, uhh, yeah. That's not cool.
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The design of a web page changes depending on all sorts of different circumstances.
The term "WYSIWYG" simply doesn't apply to the web. The web is a fluid medium and web pages change in appearance under varying circumstances without any change to the code. The term "WYSIWYG" applies to paper. The web is not paper.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like there's WebDAV support in Nvu. Still, this is just what I've been looking for for my daughter, the aspiring artist. With WebDAV support it could become a lightweight alternative to Dreamweaver at work, especially if it can play nice with Zope templates!
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...but I was wondering if anyone could tell me if Eclipse 3.1 had been released.
... to me without vi keybindings.
Now, if only Glazman would give up fighting against PHP and make is useable enough for us web developers. (You can't open PHP files in Linux unless you do it VIA FTP or you stand on your left foot while holding your nose)
Although for those who still only develope plain HTML it's a great app.
I tried 1.0PR (20050427) on Debian/Linux the other day. Sorry, but God, what a piece of crap. I used to be ashamed for using MS Frontpage, but after seeing this, I'm glad I do. Nvu is sloooow, buggy, basic things like selection, copy-paste, and typing Enter doesn't work very properly.
I'd rather put hope on Quanta, but its VPL (WYSIWYG) editor is still largely unfinished.
What you see is what you get ...
But that does not apply to someone else with a different browser, different resolution and color depth.
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I downloaded NVU a couple of days ago and tried it a bit (the Windows version). The test project was a basic photo album site. I gave the thing a couple of hours, but gave up in disgust after it lost a file I had painfully edited (so please don't consider what follows as anything but a rant. I didn't get to the advanced features at all. The thing may be a diamond in the rough for all I know)
The software is buggy and doesn't respect the platform's conventions (extremely annoying: why for example doesn't Ctrl+F4 close the current page?). Introducing basic text in WYSYWIG mode was a pain; selection works weirdly, deletion doesn't do what you expect, the arrows work intermittently and so on. I found myself using mostly the HTML source code editor (which was almost as bad). Inserting and editing a table was an exercise in frustration. The table format dialog is fairly counter-intuitive - I had to go back to the HTML source code editor for that too. I might as well have used notepad to begin with. Working with templates is also difficult and the software offers very little support.
NVU has a CSS editor, but using it is completely non-intuitive for a beginner. And a more knowledgeable web programmer will probably have better tools.
All in all, it's more what I'd expect from an early beta, not a 1.0 release.
I use Dreamweaver at work and love it. But it's a bit too expensive for my personal use. I never touch the WYSIWYG view or any of the fancy "features." What I want in an editor is code highlighting, auto-indenting, auto-complete tags, tabbed file editing, and the lovely tree menu and ease of uploading that Dreamweaver has. If someone can point me to something along those lines I would appreciate it. I have done a bit of searching but didn't seem to find anything.
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I'm impressed that Nvu has good support for CSS & XHTML, but I hope that the developers will be able to integrate better creation in the WYSIWYG editor (like using div's instead of tables or creating div's on the fly from the toolbar).
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