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Cartoon Network Acquires Neon Genesis Evangelon
The Fool writes "Anime News Network is reporting that Cartoon network will
be airing All of Neon Genesis Evangelon. You can also read the Toon Zone speculation as well as some more."
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which it should be.... granted they can edit out the blood, but some of the story themes are a little mature to show on maguzi... i guess thay might air it on whats left of toonami... but i dont even know what time that segmet airs anymore....
...which ending are they going to show?
I understand completely why CN shows only dubbed programs, but NGE is a prototypically abysmal dubbing job (and i apologize to the voice actors involved, but this show really made me cringe). While shinji is supposed to be unpopular, he shouldn't be utterly grating as he is in the dub.
Anyway, i wish someone would take a serious look at showing this subbed.
There are lives at stake here!
I'm not quite sure I understand why cartoon network butchers animes as they do.
Quite obviously, Cartoon network is mostly a children's network (excepting adult swim). Undoubtedly, many other people than children enjoy shows shown on CN, but it is targeted at the younger people among us. Alot of the stuff in animes such as this one (aimed at the teen crowd) isn't necessarily meant for small children. For this reason, most animes show only late at night, on adult swim.
Here's what I don't get. Why are they doing all this editing when it's on a time alottment for older people, at a time when most small children aren't up anyway? it doesn't make sense.
NGE was a great series in its time but at this point you could compare Cartoon Network to a library that aquires all the latest by Heinlein and Bradbury while ignoring Stephenson, Rucker, Richard Morgan, and others because they aren't "classic".
Really what I'd rather see is a high definition version of Gankutsuou. Or the uncensored version of Dokuro. (I'll admit it, I laughed pretty hard at episode 1-2).
I would say the Christian imagery and themes are more a way of for the writers to insert something cool and somewhat mysterious for the typical japanese viewer. It's only in the US and other countries with a Christian background that things appear to have a significance that they don't.
You see this is in the West all of the time with writers borrowing elements of Egyptian or Eastern religions/mythologies to provide something mysterious.
The whole existential angst and questions about being accepted isn't really new. Any teen drama is filled with characters trying to get recognized by others and having doubts about their self-worth.
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, it seems like two minutes. When you sit on a hot stove for two minutes, it
Coastal Carolina (which did some stuff like the You're Under Arrest and Oh! My Goddess dubbing for AnimEigo) was excellent.
Are you on drugs? My wife used to work there, and she lies on her resume to keep from having to admit being associated with the horrible work they produced. She just leaves a hole in her list of work experiences. A lot of HR people assume that when you do that you were unemployeed, in prison, or worse. Assuming someone has been in prison is better than admitting to being associated with them.
Also, despite charging much less than the other guys in Los Angeles, Houston and New York, they still couldn't stay in business. The owner, Scott Houle, was so into that type of Japanese pornography that he even did that type of work at a loss, and they still couldn't keep customers. A lot of local residents are glad they're no longer dubbing porno, because that job attracted a lot of freaks.
I am so glad they went out of business and my wife stopped working there. She used to come home each night after they did dubbs and scrub her skin so hard it would turn red and sometimes bleed. The stuff they saw on the screen still haunts her. Why is this crap even covered by Slashdot anyway? I thought this was supposed to be a technical site, not a porno site.
Quoth Wikipedia's quality entry on the series:
Evangelion is an anglicised version of the Greek "?????????" (euangelion) for "good news", and is typically translated "gospel" in the Bible. Initially, the word meant "good messenger", the prefix "eu" meaning "good" and "angelion" meaning "messenger" (from the same word that means "angel"). It only came to mean "good message" or "good news" over time. This dual meaning may be the reason both the series itself and the "mecha" are called Evangelion. -- Wikipedia
I wouldn't know Greek from a hole in my head, but I've always interpreted the full title as something like "New Gospel of Creation" in describing the series to people.
Don't become a regular here -- you will become retarded.
I am firmly convinced that anybody who claims to know what this anime is really about is full of shit.
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I sir, Accept your challenge. Keep in mind that Gainax added stuff to the anime that was not in the manga, which took it in a different direction.. I am isolating the deeper meaning in the animated series. The primary goal of the Anime is to entertain, and it does that by being different. In a market where there are three broadcast telelvision station, which broadcast animated programming for the majority of thier time blocks, well it takes a lot to stand out fromt he crowd. Gainax has thier own thing they do that makes them different, so this aside, on to the rest.
Eva is a story about kids who have been put in the situation of saving the world from humanity. Humanity has tried to replace God with science, and the science they have created has seriously gone beyond what humanity can deal with, except for when 'new types' power armored suits that are based on the same 'out of control' technology that threatened the existance of humanity in the first place.
Beware the God you create, for the God you create to live your life by is the God that determines your fate. That Sir, Is what Evangelion is about. It is not about 'divine' intervention or some such, It is about humanity trying to create God in our image, and the price of arrogance. Also the title translates into modern english as "Brilliantly Illuminated, The creation of God's word"*
*= there are a couple of other possible tranlsations, but the next best is "Brilliantly illuminated, The first book of God -- Good news!" which is kinda wierd
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Huh? Okay, I'm trolling here but did you even read what you just said? It's no wonder CN changes Anime. That description sounds godawful. I was mildly curious about what this show was until I heard it was the apocolypse told through robot-piloting teenagers. I've watched my fair share of cartoon's as an adult, but calling that plot "entertainment" would be a stretch. Zero chance I'll ever watch an episode of this now. I know this will get modded down because not likely Anime is sacreligious here and calling BS on something with an obviously stupid plot isn't very popular in this hive mind.
I have watched all twenty-six episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion though. The first twenty-four episodes...meh. The robots were kinda cool, and some of the interplay between Shinji and Asuka was funny...even though I wanted to constantly strangle Shinji for being such a coward. But NGE seemed well-regarded in anime circles, so I persisted.
Then I watched episodes twenty-five and twenty-six and couldn't believe what I was seeing. I didn't expect anything like what they did, and it was awesome.
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As someone who's tried to watch anime and has given up on it, give NGE a shot. And the fools who tell you not to watch the last two episodes are just that, fools. Those episodes alone made the series worthwhile and turned me into a fan of NGE.
On a side note, I even know what it feels like to be Misato. I had a 17 year old female friend of mine living with me for awhile(couple months) because her mom was a mental case. I just had to show her Ep.2 "the Beast", there were so many parallels between our living arrangment and Shinji/Misato's, it was crazy. I even paused this scene were it just shows Shinji's backpack on the floor in front of the TV. Then I was like look, your backpack is sitting in front of my TV too, in almost the exact same position! Whew, creepy! She even paused in front of my door and was like "I don't wanna impose". I just had to bust out with the, "Ashley, this is your home now." She stepped through the door, and I said "Welcome home!" Cool shit man! I never gave her an "adult kiss" though, that's where the parallels stopped.
Being a 30 year old bachlor living with a hot 17 year old girl is no kinda fun let me tell you. Teen girls are insane! Stress, Drama, PMS...AHHHHHH. Stay away from them. However, women in their 40's make great lovers (her mental mom for instance).
My god, I can't believe I'm about to post this story. Oh well.
From my understanding, the producers ran out of money for the ending and so tossed to together stuff they were able to afford in order to have a final episode at all. The way the two movies tried come up with an ending but failed suggests that the creator didn't really have a clear idea of what he wanted and was adding things because they sounded cool earlier in the series.
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, it seems like two minutes. When you sit on a hot stove for two minutes, it
I suppose most of Hayao Miyazaki's works are for young girls, as most (if not all, can't remember clearly, not enough caffiene) of his main characters are young girls.
Is that what you're trying to say?
Yes.
Now, give me a five page dissertation on why you think that naming the target group implies that only that group can watch it.
I happen to have watched Evangelion about six years ago, when I was 13, and I did not get the great deal of what it was trying to convey at all.
The older I get, the more sense things make.
They're 15, you were too young.
And once again: Other, more mature or brighter 13 year olds might have liked it, it's not an exclusivity concept.
I saw it older than 15, I loved it, obviously, even though I was fully aware (sing it with me now: "Shounen yo! Shinwa ni nare!") of being older than their target audience.
Not to mention that it's a confusing show, it's normal to "get" more of it through repeated viewings.
You can't take the sky from me...
Sound familiar.. I watched the whole series on DVD and the tail end was a disapointment.. seriously, there's no way CN could ever show this on the air and not ruin the plot. The plot with nudity and gore is supposed to be shocking.. it's geared toward young teens that are experienceing all that for the first time. In that context it's very tastefully done, but definately not to american tastes.
That said, i'd like a REAL ending to the series.. even the "movies" were pretty lame and hard to follow. or maybe the point is that it doesn't have a point!
> The appeal of anime is partly that japan
> isn't limited in their animation to kids
Actually, most of anime is for kids / teens. The issue though is that there in Japan (and prolly eastern Asia in general) the parents don't give a fuck of what their children watch. They know that their children are no more "pure" (neither they are expected to be) than the parents themselves. I'd say that in fact this is a huge problem with our western civilization - we expect everyone (but us, of course) to be ideal and pure in thoughts and deeds. We can easily justify whatever stupid, ugly things we do, but we severly lack the understanding and cannot condescent (sp?) to other people's actions.
Second issue is that they have _other_ taboos than we have here. You see, boys have testicles and girls have boobs - that's completely natural and no secret to everyone. But here it's a taboo somehow. Watch "Heisei Tanuki Kassen Ponpoko" for example - it's a cute wonderful movie (anime) for kids and causes no problems out there (in fact, it scored greatly at the box office). But there's no way in hell it could be shown publically in US, most of Europe, of for example, Russia, because male tanuki have them balls clearly visible all the time and use them for some magic things. Every mom and dad here I guess would get brain fracture in an instant if their kids see that. Not that I think that would cause any problems for kids.